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Re: Black Projects Come Out

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:39:48 -0400
Archived: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:46:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Black Projects Come Out

>From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:44:19 -0400
>Subject: Re: Black Projects Come Out

>>From: Tim Matthews <TMMatthews99.nul>
>>To: updates.nul
>>Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 03:41:59 EST
>>Subject: Black Projects Come Out

>>Dear All,

>>Below, an article for the New Scientist by David Windle who
>>assisted me in researching my book, UFO Revelation, published by
>>Cassell in 1999. The article demonstrates what the few people
>>like me have been saying all along. That many of the better UFO
>>sightings are, indeed, black projects aircraft at various stages
>>of production.

>>We were right all along... and this is but one example that has
>>seen the light of day.....

>>Tim Matthews.


>>Source: The New Scientist


>>By David Windle
>>New Scientist
>>October 21, 2002

>>A formerly top secret, bat-winged stealth jet has taken the
>>aviation world by surprise, after a low key unveiling in St
>>Louis, Missouri. It may look like it flew straight off the
>>screen of a sci-fi movie, but the Bird of Prey is no flight of
>>fancy - it could translate into serious business for its makers,
>>aerospace giant Boeing.

>>"Here we have an example of a classic 'black' programme: an
>>aircraft which has been built and flight tested for a number of
>>years - and no one outside the programme knew about it," says
>>Nick Cook, aerospace consultant to Janes Defence Weekly. Other
>>highly classified aircraft that have ultimately been revealed
>>included the U-2 and Blackbird spy planes and the B-2 stealth

>>The Bird of Prey cost $67 million and is the product of Boeing's
>>advanced research and development division, the Phantom Works.
>>It first flew in 1996 and is said to have demonstrated a range
>>of stealth and production technologies. It is a single seat,
>>single engine design and with a reported maximum altitude of
>>6100 metres (20,000 feet). Its top speed is a relatively sedate
>>480 km/h (300 mph).


>The announcement reinforces the long known conclusion that
>secrets can be kept, but hardly suggests that this craft was
>mistaken for a high performance  flying saucer... Note top speed
>of 300mph, top altitude of 20,000'.It has wings and there is no
>indication it can move straight up or down or land in a space
>not much larger than itself or hover. Reminds one of the silly
>CIA historian's fictional claim that the U-2 and SR-71 spy
>planes were responsible for many UFO sightings. One also wonders
>about its range.

Hi Stan and List,

You know they have to hang radar reflectors on fiberglas yachts
so that ship's radar can pick them up and avoid running them
down at sea.

I've mentioned homebuilts on this list before. There are several
thousands of types built out of aircraft grade plywood and/or
carbon fibers etc that elude radar-without even trying. Many are
very fast and are exotic looking.

Why do we have to get all bent out of shape and hyped by this
latest stealth Bird of Prey. It's just bigger and slower is all.
What's this little pissant going to prey on anyway. It's a


Don Ledger

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