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Re: Anti-Gravity FTs Coming To A Store Near You

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:31:40 -0400
Archived: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:19:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Anti-Gravity FTs Coming To A Store Near You

>From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:38:49 -0500
>Subject: Re: Anti-Gravity FTs Coming To A Store Near You

>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:13:42 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Anti-Gravity FTs Coming To A Store Near You

>>>From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 08:36:40 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: Anti-Gravity FTs Coming To A Store Near You


>>You are right. However I believe this technology might have more
>>to do with ion wind and/or eddy current interaction between the
>>wire and the tinfoil fence. The interaction creates the

>I don't believe that. A capacitor having been fully charged does
>_not_ have "ion wind" in the vicinty of its plates. If it did,
>an air or vacuum dielectric capacitor would very rapidly

>Furthermore, all the structural elements of the model triangle
>are vertical, and as any pilot knows, a vertical surface does
>not produce vertical lift even if there were "ion currents"

>There is a simple way to test this - enclose the device in the
>thinnest possible poly bag - depending on how much lift the
>device produces, Saran Wrap might do. If it still lifts, then
>the lift has nothing at all to with "ion currents". Because air
>and vacuum capacitors can hold charge, I'm betting it's not
>anything as conventional as "ion currents". I hope someone with
>the cash to try this will do so, because if this _is_ a
>revolutionary lifting principle, and does not depend on "ion
>currents", it would be the _single_ _biggest_boost_to_UFOlogy_
>in a very long time!

>Such a demonstration of non-dependence on ion currents would
>smash any disinformational spin that cover up elements may try
>to use.

>>But the whole thing is bogus unless it can lift its own power
>>source. So far, that's not the case.

>That's at 20 Kv. Try 20 _M_v using an extremely strong
>dielectric, and several alternating layers, with the charge
>being applied across each layer.

Hi Eleanor,

Quickly [and perhaps unclearly] because I've gotta get to

I don't pretend to be a wizard in electronics or physics. I am a
pilot as a matter of fact. I think we are talking apples and
oranges here. I'm not suggesting that the reaction here is one
that mimics pull or push like a prop or a jet/rocket but pure
reactive forces. The fact that there might be eddy currents or
ion winds created might result in an opposite reaction to the
flow, not as a push or a pull. Capacitive reactance has a charge
and decay time-so there's a neutral point where nothing is

Again, the process is bogus until you get the power source
aboard-otherwise it's not much more useful than blowing on a
feather. The feather moves but there is a great deal of energy
being wasted to do so and it's a powerful and outside source.


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