From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:13:43 -0500 Archived: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 11:50:06 -0400 Subject: Re: Mystery Of Area 51 >From: Grant Cameron <presidentialufo.nul> >To: ufoupdates.nul >Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:39:29 -0500 >Subject: Mystery Of Area 51 >Source: Pravda >http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/11/04/39112.html >Mystery of Area 51 >Let's get something straight from the very beginning: I don't >insist at all that the below-mentioned facts are the absolute >truth. Many of them cannot be verified. At the same time, I >won't argue with those who say that a civilization of dormant >stones exists on Earth parallel to our civilization; also, I >discuss the question of the existence of life on Mars. Agreed? >If so, let's proceed. >Accident in Roswell <snip> >American government officials quite naturally started dodging >the question once again. This time, they admit the obvious fact >that there is a secret military base in Nevada not far from Las >Vegas. However, they say this base has nothing to do with aliens >and that there are no UFOs there; only Stealth planes are tested >there. >This explanation doesn't sound very convincing by the way. Who >will trust the American government when it has been pulling the >wool over our eyes for 50 years? And as for Stealth aircraft, >have you ever seen one? It looks very much like an UFO. >Chief UFO Specialist >The majority of ufologists mistrust the recent refutations made >by the USA, with the exception of Russian Professor Vladimir >Azhazha, a UFO expert. He says: "I personally never asserted >that an UFO was hidden in Nevada. Moreover, I am perfectly sure >that there is none at all. There is no doubt that other >civilizations do exist, but we can't prove it yet. <snip> >On the whole, Russian Professor Azhazha is sure that the search >for UFOs is just like chasing for ghosts that don't exist and >never did at all. It would be more correct to move science in a >different direction and find out why aliens kidnap people. >According to Vladimir Azhazha, every tenth man on Earth is >kidnapped by extraterrestrials; these kidnappings are most >frequent when people are asleep. This means that human bodies >remain in beds and only their consciousness, or souls, travel >together with extraterrestrials. People kidnapped this way >remember nothing at all about their strange travels, as all >information about it is erased from their minds. Sometimes, >children draw mysterious pictures after being kidnapped by >aliens. Scientists try to understand that these children are >trying to show in their drawings. Translated by Maria Gousseva Amusing Russian writer's perspective on the UFO situation regarding Roswell, Area 51, etc. But what has caught my interest is the mention of Azhazha. I met Vladimir at a UFO conference in Japan (Hakui City) almost 12 years ago. I could speak about 25 words of Russian and he knew several hundred of English. By combining marginal conversation with pictorial illustrations he managed to convey to me that he had been, in the 50's and 60's, a submarine captain and he commanded the first Russian nuclear sub to travel under the north pole. (The Americans had done it first with the Nautilus in '57, '58 or '59, if I recall correctly). He didn't tell me what year that was, but probably in the same time frame. The ufo connection is this: in the early 1970's (73?) he was asked by a Russian Navy officer to take on the UFO problem. This was because there had been sightings by the Russian Navy, including one bizarre case involving a Navy sub in the Pacific. According to Azhazha (and my recollection of his story), a sub was performing routine maneuvers somewhere in the Pacific when the sonar crew became aware of a "contact" not too far away that seemed to be pacing the sub. The captain ordered maneuvers to "shake" the intruder, thinking it was a US sub playing a typical cat and mounse game. They could not get rid of this sonar contact, so the captain decided to surface, assuming that the US sub would also surface and then they could see what was going on. So they surfaced and got up on the sail of the sub and looked around and saw nothing until...... a large "Craft" came up out of the water and took off!!! (Last I heard, subs don't fly!) Azhazha said that that Navy captain was now (1980's) an Admiral. He would not tell me who it was, but I think he said the man's name started with K. Anyway, that sub incident occured years before the early 1970's but I don't recal when. Then he told me another story, this involved a sub "base" or what we might call a sub tender in the north Atlantic somehwere. Again, while performing normal maneuvers, this "base" was subjected to a flyover by a number of "flying saucers".... objects not airplanes. Azhazha became publicly known in the middle 1970's when he gave a lecture on UFOs in Russia. If I recall correctly, the MUFON Journal has as article about him in some issue from the 1970's. In the 1980's (late) he founded the SOYUZUFOTSENTR (Unified UFO Center) with some level of official authorization. I don't know whether or not that is still active. Bottom line: Azhazha knows UFOs are real....
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