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From: John W. Auchettl <Praufo.nul> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:42:06 EST Archived: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 11:24:12 -0400 Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret >From: Jan Aldrich <project1947.nul> >To: ufoupdates.nul >Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:18:42 -0500 >Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret - Aldrich >>From: John W. Auchettl <Praufo.nul> >>To: ufoupdates.nul >>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:19:00 EST >>Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret >>>From: Jan Aldrich <project1947.nul> >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul> >>>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:25:34 -0500 >>>Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret >>>>From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul> >>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul> >>>>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:41:59 -0400 >>>>Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret >>>>In addition I required a Q clearance which was normally thought >>>>of as being somewhere between SECRET and TOP SECRET. >>>This is completely false. A Q clearance was necessary for access >>>to nuclear data. It is not between anything. >>What Jan said is wrong, in fact Stan is correct. <snip> >John >All that I can say is your post is nonsense. <snip> >My access during my stay in Europe was NCSA, Cosmic Top Secret >Atonal. I did not have a COSMIC Top Secret Clearance a la Robert >Dean. This is quite incorrect! During my stay I was authorized >to see COSMIC Top Secret information relevant to my duties. My >clearance was Top Secret, when I left Europe my access to COSMIC >Top Secret information ended, but my Top Secret clearance >continued. Again, see AR 380-5. Hi Jan, EBK & List, Jan, not bad for Sergeant (Fd Arty Meteorology). Your OMPF at NARA must be very impressive. But I digress. The realisation that when you departed the European Theatre and you assess to that, stopped, must give some idea that you went down or across a level (human lock). Well I hope it did? Let's beg to differ on this Jan. I think I will stay with what I know. And I would advise others to do the same. However, it looks as if a lot of new data, levels, departments & corrections etc are coming from you, as you search the Web and discover other crown acts, executives, governments, groups, compartments, projects, departments, countries - it's a nightmare and under constant review! The system is a little more complex than first thought. That is why you have posted 3 new supplements on the subject! General Define: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2002/nov/m01-002.shtml Security Information Defined: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2002/nov/m01-018.shtml Control Of Classified Information: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2002/nov/m02-005.shtml Let me again repeat: The inexperienced always leave out the levels in the structure, I have no idea why. I think it's because most see it as a 'document restriction system' (paper lock) when it is a 'human restriction system' (human lock). The problem is that everyone thinks that the Classification defines the security, but it does not! It is a little more complex than a black rubber stamp on a document in the archives, and takes a bit of research to grasp. On this matter, Stan still has my vote! Regards to you, UBIQUE John W. AUCHETTL OMPF - Official Military Personnel Files NPRC - National Personnel Records Center Military Personnel Records http://www.archives.gov/facilities/mo/st_louis/military_personnel_records.html
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