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Re: Cosmic Top Secret

From: John W. Auchettl <Praufo.nul>
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:42:06 EST
Archived: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 11:24:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret

>From: Jan Aldrich <project1947.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:18:42 -0500
>Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret - Aldrich

>>From: John W. Auchettl <Praufo.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:19:00 EST
>>Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret

>>>From: Jan Aldrich <project1947.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:25:34 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret

>>>>From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:41:59 -0400
>>>>Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret

>>>>In addition I required a Q clearance which was normally thought
>>>>of as being somewhere between SECRET and TOP SECRET.

>>>This is completely false. A Q clearance was necessary for access
>>>to nuclear data. It is not between anything.

>>What Jan said is wrong, in fact Stan is correct.



>All that I can say is your post is nonsense.


>My access during my stay in Europe was NCSA, Cosmic Top Secret
>Atonal. I did not have a COSMIC Top Secret Clearance a la Robert
>Dean. This is quite incorrect! During my stay I was authorized
>to see COSMIC Top Secret information relevant to my duties. My
>clearance was Top Secret, when I left Europe my access to COSMIC
>Top Secret information ended, but my Top Secret clearance
>continued. Again, see AR 380-5.

Hi Jan, EBK & List,

Jan, not bad for Sergeant (Fd Arty Meteorology). Your OMPF at
NARA must be very impressive. But I digress.

The realisation that when you departed the European Theatre and
you assess to that, stopped, must give some idea that you went
down or across a level (human lock). Well I hope it did?

Let's beg to differ on this Jan.

I think I will stay with what I know. And I would advise others
to do the same.

However, it looks as if a lot of new data, levels, departments &
corrections etc are coming from you, as you search the Web and
discover other crown acts, executives, governments, groups,
compartments, projects, departments, countries - it's a
nightmare and under constant review! The system is a little more
complex than first thought.

That is why you have posted 3 new supplements on the subject!

General Define:


Security Information Defined:


Control Of Classified Information:


Let me again repeat:

The inexperienced always leave out the levels in the structure,
I have no idea why. I think it's because most see it as a
'document restriction system' (paper lock) when it is a 'human
restriction system' (human lock).

The problem is that everyone thinks that the Classification
defines the security, but it does not!

It is a little more complex than a black rubber stamp on a
document in the archives, and takes a bit of research to grasp.

On this matter, Stan still has my vote!

Regards to you,



OMPF - Official Military Personnel Files
NPRC - National Personnel Records Center
            Military Personnel Records

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