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Re: Cosmic Top Secret

From: John W. Auchettl <Praufo.nul>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:19:00 EST
Archived: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:21:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret


>From: Jan Aldrich <project1947.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:25:34 -0500
>Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret

>>From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:41:59 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Cosmic Top Secret

<snip>

>>In addition I required a Q clearance which was normally thought
>>of as being somewhere between SECRET and TOP SECRET.

>This is completely false. A Q clearance was necessary for access
>to nuclear data. It is not between anything.

<snip>

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2002/nov/m01-003.shtml


Hi list,

Just reading the post on this subject and some are full of
problems.


What Jan said is wrong, in fact Stan is correct.


I have no problems with the data in the posts, and the
corrections. For example "Unclassified" is an important level
usually missed by people who don't understand the complexity of
the system.

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2002/nov/m01-018.shtml


However, the inexperienced always leave out the levels in the
structure, I have no idea why. I think it's because most see it
as a 'document restriction system' (paper lock) when it is a
'human restriction system' (human lock).

The problem is that everyone thinks that the Classification
defines the security, but it does not!

Some facts to remember:

[1]. Levels of Protection are always above Classification
     of Protection.

[2]. Humans move the data, not paper.

[3]. You can always move down the levels, sometime across the
     levels but definitely NOT up the levels.

The top dog in the 'Levels of Protection' is the OS - "Official
Secrets" level.

This is the Official Secrets Act stamp and is a "lifetime duty
of confidentiality" or a 'Black Hole' stamp or lock.

If you sign this form, then you have in fact in a very odd way
cut out all other levels. The force of this protection will only
come into action if the authorities hit you with the OS stamp.
Even Stan cannot get out of this one if I hit him with a OS!

Nothing moves, down sideway or up - you're a dead duck.

http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1989/Ukpga_19890006_en_1.htm

Nick Pope post is an important post and needs to be understood.
"COSMIC top secret" is the highest classification marking in
NATO and it is equivalent to "UK top secret".

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2002/nov/m01-020.shtml

So in fact Stan Friedman is correct, he was between S and TS. It
is not a simple 4 level stamp and it would take some time to
work it out if you have no idea how the system is structured,
that's another post another day.


Regards to all,

UBIQUE

John W. AUCHETTL


  OS - Lifetime Confidential   <--- The Head dog
 CTS - Cosmic
  TS - DoD SAP
  TS - SCI
  TS - BIGOT LIST
  NS - NATO
   S - DoD SAP                  <--- Stans Level (?)
   S - SCI
   S - BIGOT LIST
   C - DoD SAP
   C - SCI
   C - BIGOT LIST
   R - BIGOT LIST               <--- Non USA
   E - EMBARGO                  <--- Non USA
  EO - EYES ONLY
  UC - UNCLASSIFIED

(above list is not accurate - sample only)

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