From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 16:18:24 -0400
Fwd Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 16:37:27 -0400
Subject: Re: More On Wilbert B. Smith And Flying Saucers -


 >Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:03:04 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
 >From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos@YorkU.CA>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >Subject: More On Wilbert B. Smith And Flying Saucers

 >A few month's ago I listened to Palmiro Campagna and James Smith
 >on Errol's 'Strange Days... Indeed' radio show on UFOs (program
 >number 179). Palmiro is the author of several books, including
 >'The UFO Files: The Canadian Connection Exposed' and has been a
 >guest on Errol's show many times. This time Palmiro arranged for
 >James, the son of Wilbert B. Smith, one of Canada's many top
 >researcher's studying flying saucers back in the 1950s, to be on
 >the radio along with him. It was an amazing show!

 >http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/sdiarchive/

 >James said that his father was shown dead alien bodies recovered
 >from a crashed flying saucer (a confirmation of what some of
 >Wilbert's closests associates also knew about) and that he was
 >also present during some of his father's experiments performed
 >in labs with the assistance of other government scientists.

Hiya Nick,

You wrote:

 >These included experiments based on what was learned from the
 >'Boys Topside" that produced many unexpected effects which
 >demonstrated that time can be made to speed up or slow down and
 >that the weight of objects can be reduced, among many other
 >things. These experiments and the incredible findings they made
 >are often mentioned in Wilbert's correspndence, many of which
 >can be found at the Archives and Special Collections of the
 >University of Ottawa.

Nick, I don't mean to side-track the Wilbert Smith discussion
because I think the Wilbert Smith material is even more valuable
and compelling than Jesse Marcel and Roswell. At the very least
they are on par with each other in terms of importance.

I just wanted to take the opportunity to point out that
'abductees' have been reporting _identical_ phenomena (to that
which you mention above) for more than 20 years.

Re: Gravity effects...

Reports of being taken up into *'crypto-aeronautical' craft
(*that's for Wendy! :) by means of being lifted by light beams
is reported often enough to make it a significant detail.
Specifically _blue_ beams of light. A color that comes up often
enough to maybe provide a clue as to the beam's 'composition.'
They (abductees) are 'made light' (lifted) so as to 'float' them
up and into the craft.

Not to mention the fact that UFO's themselves 'probably' rely on
some form of gravity manipulation as a means of propulsion. It
would be the only thing that would explain their odd flight
movements and characteristics. Imagine the nature and intensity
of the magnetic forces they would have to employ inside the
crafts just to keep their own pilots from becoming a part of the
interior's paint job every time a UFO executes a 90 degree turn
at supersonic speed.

We're so mired in debate over square-one basics that we rarely
get to actually think or to speculate intelligently about the
physics-defying aspects of the phenomena we are studying.
Technology so advanced that it breaks _all_ the rules, (as we
'know' them) with the innocent disregard of a child at play.

Re: time distortion...

One of the things Budd discussed with me (because of something
that came up in my case... see below) was the issue of 'slowed
or speeded up Time' that turns up in many reports. He mentioned
on more than one occasion how he wanted to write a stand-alone
piece (article) about this odd phenomena.

Budd intentionally leaves out 'some' details/patterns, that he
is aware of, whenever he is making a public presentation.
Withholding a few of these 'not very well known' details allows
him to use them as a kind of 'diagnostic' tool in his own work
with experiencers of the abduction phenom. But I digress.

The point is, abductees have been reporting phenomena that
Wilbert Smith (in his time) was studying and working with in
secret way back in the 50's. I'm certain that 'contamination' of
the psyche's of today's abductees could not have come from
knowledge of Wilbert Smith and the experiments/studies he was
carrying out in Canada.

Gravity manipulation and time distortion, two details that
abductees report that were also a part of Smith's investigations
decades ago.

I hesitate to relate an 'isolated' detail in a public forum but;
while being returned from an abduction to a motel room I was
staying at, I noticed that there was a person in the parking lot
below us (we, myself and several 'Greys', were 'floating' in
mid-air so I had a bird's eye view of the surroundings,) seemed
to be frozen in mid-step. Everything was _dead_ quiet and
_nothing_ was moving. It was as if 'Time' had stopped or frozen
for the few moments it took for them to transport me from a
UFO back to my room - which was located on the second floor
of the motel.

Not 'hard evidence,' but certainly a _notable_ coincidence. I
wonder how much of Smith's other work corroborates or parallels
the phenomena reported by UFO abductees? I look forward to
learning more about Smith and his work. Thanks for sharing all
this Smith material with us Nick. Truly fascinating stuff.

Warm regards,

John Velez