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Re: Breakout Of The Fictions - Kaeser

From: Steven Kaeser <steve@konsulting.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 11:21:48 -0400
Fwd Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:05:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Breakout Of The Fictions - Kaeser

 >From: Colin Bennett <colin@bennettc25.fsnet.co.uk>
 >To: <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >Subject: Breakout Of The Fictions
 >Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 04:12:24 +0100

 >Breakout Of The Fictions


 >The MJ12 group was a proud techno-aristocracy. Well-heeled
 >and over-protected, and presumably as fond of decadent games
 >as is every aristocracy. Could some of these socially
 >isolated people, over-endowed with brain (as was Borges), in
 >a supremely decadent moment, have cooked something up from
 >this story? Inward looking, and possibly in a state of shock
 >after the most intense five years any human could live
 >through, they faced an immediate post-war world that they did
 >not understand, and moreover a world that had taken their
 >youth away, and given almost all of them fatal cancers. As
 >Eisenhower hinted, certainly Borges' ideas could have
 >represented to them a kind of fantastic super- science, the
 >next quantum step as regards conceptions of Matter and Idea,
 >and there were as many forms of such things flying around Los
 >Alamos in the late forties as there were desert flies. As
 >Friedman and the Woods have so convincingly demonstrated, the
 >MJ12 papers show access to vintage top-secret material. Is it
 >possible that like the heresiarchs of Uqbar, the elite of the
 >military-industrial-complex attempted the experiment of
 >seeding powerful suggestions if only to sit back and watch
 >such new-born information animals attempt to clone
 >themselves, producing almost-appearances and almost-objects
 >such as the UFO?

 >And when they had done so, did they attempt unsuccessfully to
 >shut the pile down?

I think you give too much weight to the research of Friedman and
the Woods in the MJ-12 affair (no offense intended to either

They have laid out their arguments, but few researchers give
much credence to the MJ-12 papers, and none have (to my
knowledge) provenance that can be verified.

There are several good arguments to show that the SOM-101 manual
is not valid, and what most probably don't realize is that the
manual was received long before it was publicized by Friedman in
his book.

Efforts had gotten underway to try and check its provenance
before it began to impact the genre in a negative way, but some
felt the need to get this information out.

This is, of course, an old debate and certainly not worth
re-hashing again (unless there is some new information to


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