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Re: Mantell - Ledger

From: Don Ledger <dledger@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 11:44:58 -0300
Fwd Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:09:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Mantell - Ledger


 >From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos@YorkU.CA>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:53:01 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
 >Subject: Re: Mantell

 >>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99@hotmail.com>
 >>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >>Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:41:55 +0000
 >>Subject: Re: Mantell

 >>>Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 01:06:23 -0300
 >>>From: Don Ledger <dledger@ns.sympatico.ca>
 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >>>Subject: Mantell [was: Re: Request For Investigative ...]

<snip>

 >Was it in Edward J. Ruppelt's excellent 1956 UFO book 'The
 >Report on Unidentified Flying Objects'? After consulting with
 >Allen J. Hynek, Ruppelt was convinced the Air Force's
 >explanation that Mantell's UFO was Venus is wrong. After further
 >investigation Ruppelt seems to feel that what Mantell had seen
 >may have been a 100 foot diameter skyhook balloon. What I still
 >find puzzling, is although Smith was aware of what Ruppelt wrote
 >about the Mantell UFO incident in his book, his claim that the
 >debris from the aircraft "just fell apart and was scattered over
 >quite an area" and that "Mantell's body gave every indication of
 >having been subjected to considerable heat" doesn't seem to
 >agree with Ruppelt's account (which I briefly quote below from
 >page 57).

 >"...I had always heard a lot of wild speculation about the
 >condition of Mantell's crashed F-51, so I wired for a copy of
 >the accident report. It arrived several days after my visit with
 >Dr. Hynek. The report said that the F-51 had lost a wing due to
 >excessive speed in a dive after Mantell had "blacked out" due to
 >the lack of oxygen. Mantell's body was not burned, not
 >disintegrated, and was not full of holes..."

 >I wonder who the sources of this "wild speculation" were
 >regarding Mantell's fatal airplane crash at the time when Ruppelt
 >wrote his book in 1956. Were these sources the same ones which
 >Smith, who like Ruppelt, also had high level U.S. Air Force
 >contacts and was even provided with a piece of a flying saucer
 >shot off over Washington, D.C., got his facts from and mentioned
 >in his 1958 and 1961 talks? A not too clear photo on James
 >Easton's web site allegedly of Mantell's crashed aircraft

 >http://www.ufoworld.co.uk/ftp/mantell.jpg

 >raises the question that both Ruppelt's and Smith's accounts may
 >not have the whole story. As far as I am concerned, the Mantell
 >UFO incident is still unexplained.


Hi Nick,

In this case I don't think it was anything as exotic as reduced
[molecular] binding. The asymmetrical and  G forces alone would
have done the job. Here's another thought. Mantell could have
passed out before the aircraft reached its pinnacle altitude and
rolled either into a spin or a spiral. The aircraft -properly
trimmed just might have carried Mantell upward another 5,000
feet before it lost trim and descended in whatever manner.

In any event though there are some missing details concerning
the balloon theory, Mantell probably died chasing a balloon. But
we likely never know for sure.

Best,

Don Ledger



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