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Re: Roswell 'Hieroglyph' Controversy - Gates

From: Robert Gates <RGates8254@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 23:00:08 EDT
Fwd Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:50:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Roswell 'Hieroglyph' Controversy - Gates

 >From: Bob Young <YoungBob2@aol.com>
 >To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 17:00:28 EDT
 >Subject: Re: Roswell 'Hieroglyph' Controversy - Gates

 >>From: Robert Gates <RGates8254@aol.com>
 >>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >>Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:55:36 EDT
 >>Subject: Re: Roswell 'Hieroglyph' Controversy


 >>Shouldn't, anytime anybody says the NYU Rawin balloon, it be
 >>pointed out that the very closest, in theory, that the so called
 >>expert could get the balloon to the debris field is 17 or so

 >>So no matter what, the theory is still 17 miles short... kind of
 >>like horse shoes and hand gernades..... :) >>


 >Isn't what happened that at 17 miles the balloon device dropped
 >to an altitude that caused it to disappear from the radar set
 >which was tracking it from White Sands, or wherever?

 >Just because it was no long visible from the radar receiver
 >doesn't mean that it wasn't just poking along.

A couple of things off the top of my head. Being that this is
off the top of my head, if Kevin Randle or somebody else wants
to correct something please feel free. Its been quite awhile
since I looked at Moore's book.

As I recall from the Moore account we only have one launch that
fits the bill so to speak. We also only have _one_ person, i.e.
Moore who says that his diary/journal claimed that a launch took
place on June 4th. As I recall we have no other records or
information that can be verified that in fact can confirm that a
balloon and package was even launched.

Moore came along a few years ago and ran an analysis based on
data obtained from the weather service about upper level wind
currents back in 1947. Based upon that analysis Moore was able
to get the alleged balloon/instrument package to approx 17 miles
of the ranch. Now I would point out that apparently nobody
independent of Moore has run an analysis of the same data, i.e.
upper air currents, payload etc etc.

As I recall there was _no_ radar tracking data of that flight
what so ever.

Apparently based upon that we have Moore pronouncement that the
package/balloon accounted for the debris field. In essence the
theory at best was 17 miles short.

I find it amusing that one one hand skeptibunkers will seize
upon a skeptical theory that at best is 17 miles short and
pronounce that as a valid, scientific explaination of what

On the other hand if a pro UFO person advanced a theory that was
off by 17 miles all the skeptibunkers would pounce on it, and
start telling us why it isn't scientific, why the data doesn't
even come close etc etc.

Personally even if a pro-UFO theory is off by 17 miles, its
still 17 miles short no matter who advanced it and should be
looked as such.



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