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Re: Nefarious Activities - Hall

From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:01:28 +0000
Fwd Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:09:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Nefarious Activities - Hall


 >From: Stephen Bassett <SGBList2@aol.com>
 >To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 15:04:56 EDT
 >Subject: Nefarious Activities [was: Reasons Why Abductees Don't Post]

 >>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99@hotmail.com>
 >>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >>Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 22:18:43 +0000
 >>Subject: Re: Reasons Why Abductees Don't Post

 ><snip>

 >>Thank you for this very interesting and important feedback. I
 >>hope some of the listers who are at least open-minded are paying
 >>attention.

 >>What all of you are saying conforms closely to what I learned by
 >>interacting with something like 150 "experiencers" before I
 >>became a burnout case.

 >>One of the major problems is that many skeptics are unable to
 >>see that serious, hardcore UFO reports establish the reality of
 >>probable visitations; therefore, abductions seem totally "off-
 >>the-wall" to them. They lack the context to understand that
 >>what you (all) are trying to communicate fits very well into a
 >>well- established pattern of evidence.

 >>Your "message" also strongly refutes the wishful thinking of
 >>people like Greer and Bassett who apparently yearn for
 >>benevolent "Space Brothers" and who bend and twist data to serve
 >>their own nefarious (in my opinion) activities.

 >>More than once I have guiltily thought about how ironic and
 >>satisfying it would be for those apparently amoral space bugs to
 >>have their way with Phil Klass, Steven Greer, and other selected
 >>parties. Maybe a barbed-wire anal probe would forcefully induce
 >>some understanding.

 >Nowhere, in anything I have published to this List or any List or
 >to my three websites, have I ever demonstrated a "yearning for
 >benevolent 'Space Brothers'." If Mr. Hall can find such
 >material, please post it here.

 >As for the bending and twisting of data to serve nefarious
 >activities. What activities? Why nefarious? Everyone has an
 >opinion and anyone can become bitter in their old age, but try
 >not to let the bitterness supersede reason.

 >As for your last paragraph, what to say other than you should
 >feel guilty. Since abductions do take place and cause
 >considerable discomfort to many people, wishing such on those
 >with whom you disagree is like wishing those who disagree with
 >you on U.S. terrorism policy were only the next victims of the
 >next attack.

 >Richard, as one of the most knowledgeable and long serving
 >researchers in the field, you could be a positive force as this
 >transition takes place. Instead you piss on everyone you don't
 >like at every opportunity. Try to understand why those whom
 >you attack might, at some point, feel the need to piss back.


Whoa, Nelly! Maybe you would make a good politician after all.
You are very skillful at evading answering the core questions
and introducing diversionary tactics. You are yet to dissociate
yourself from Greer, and in fact you lend him support, so if you
aren't a believer in "Space Brothers" why do you do so? He sure
as hell is!

Nefarious activities?: (a) Supporting Greer and his ilk' (b)
Trying to convert people's hurt and pain into a personal
political advantage; (c) Making a ludicrous run for Congress on
the "UFO/abduction ticket." Want more?

This "bitter old man" as you characterize me may be around to
urinate on your grave. I come from very sturdy stock, and from
principled people who don't take kindly to opportunists, or to
con-men like Greer.

I have equally chastised MUFON Leaders for not disowning con-men
and cranks, so don't feel personally put upon. I am an "equal
opportunity" critic of nefarious activities in the UFO field.


  - Dick




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