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Re: Reasons Why Abductees Don't Post - Lehmberg

From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:19:15 -0500
Fwd Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:54:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Reasons Why Abductees Don't Post - Lehmberg

 >From: Katharina Wilson <K_Wilson@alienjigsaw.com>
 >To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 09:24:52 -0400
 >Subject: Reasons Why Abductees Don't Post

 >To All:

 >Over the past year or so I have been wanting to ask several of
 >my abductee/experiencer friends and acquaintances why they do
 >not post to the UFO UpDates List. Some people on this List have
 >wondered why they don't hear from abductees more often. I
 >thought this might be a good time to ask them.

 >The following are the responses I received, listed in the order
 >in which I received them.



 >I can relate to and understand everything the people above have
 >stated. I think all abductees can. We have all been in similar
 >situations and have felt all of these emotions at one time or

 >The main reason I stopped posting was because of the way certain
 >people were behaving on the List. It seemed to me that things
 >were being written about the personal life of an abductee that
 >were completely unacceptable.

 >The rule I live by is not to ever divulge information about
 >another abductee or their experiences unless I have their
 >express written permission to do so.

 >The things that were written about one abductee in particular
 >crossed the line. The fact that it came from a fellow abductee
 >was one of the most distasteful things I have ever read on the
 >UFO UpDates List. As Michelle stated above, abductees experience
 >enough isolation and ridicule from the general public
 >[especially the debunkers] - to see this type of behavior coming
 >from one of our own is very sad and it is completely unacceptable.

I may resemble some of the above. I may resemble _all_ of the
above. I've been challenging, contrary, contentious and
quarrelsome, forgetting that I have always been (or tried to be)
consistent and conscientious in a manner that would soften those
things. I'm perhaps overly passionate about the subject because
I see it as the root cause of many, if not all, of our social,
cultural, and philosophical ills.

UFOs are perhaps too important a subject to be left to a handful
of men (and _too_ few women), whatever their qualification or
level of professionalism (in a manner similar to war being too
important an enterprise to be left to the general officers who
officiate it). This explains my tolerant attitude regarding who
or what might have some validity or even a shred of the truth...
whatever _that_ is. Unable to depend on my community to provide
a _quality_ mainstream, I've had to try to determine it for

If I have been corrosively offensive to our very tenuous and
volatile abduction (or ufological) community (outside of the
officious authoritarian, demanding strict adherence to an
unsatisfactory, inadequate, and demonstrably unsuccessful
"party-line"), well -- I would count it among one of my more
deeply felt regrets.

My only defense is that I am writing my conscience, sense a
contribution to something truly important that I can make
(consciousness raising if nothing else), and that I focus my
arguments more tightly on the ideas proposed than on the
individual proposing them, forgetting that individuals, of
needs, must pay freight for their expressions in a _real_ world.
No one has told me to "shut [my] pie hole" much less provided me
with some good rational why I should, banned me from, perhaps,
too prolific participation, or otherwise moderated me in any

Some may argue that that is symptomatic of what the "problem"
is, but I can attest to the fact that Errol Bruce-Knapp has not
taken sides, in the larger sense, on any argument in the forum,
and he has only ever conducted himself in a manner that befits
his role as a facilitator for all useful positions. Look up the
word "moderator" in your Funk and Wagnall's and there is very
likely a little picture of 'Errol' right _there_. Posting the
very highly critical expression I'm responding to here is just
the latest example of the egalitarian attitude that Knapp
portays and typifies. It just doesn't get any better than this
List, ladies and gentlebunkies...

I humbly submit that I would be listening closely to PUBLIC (and
private) expressions (on _this_ forum) regarding the quality of
_my_ contribution to this 'thing' that has captured our
interest, and I suggest that _others_, those evaluated as
especially troublesome by the community (?), would benefit in a
similar manner. If _my_ critic shares even uncomfortable
information with me in a non-punitive, intelligent manner,
devoid of insults and hidden axes to grind... I am _all_
attention. I'm likely to learn something at the minimum, and at
the maximum I will be efficaciously changed. I only ask that you
tell me any 'good', along with the enevitable 'bad' if you do...
this goes for everyone -- regarding anyone.

I know one thing. It is our _co-operation_ that is going to get
to the bottom of this thing, not fractious in-fighting and
obligatory back-biting. We'd be better served to hang together
when we can, if only to preclude the despairing alternative
which is, of course, hanging separately. I've got my ears open,
along with my eyes, so I'm also open to quality expressions
regarding the subject of Ms. Wilson's considered post. We all
could be.

Read on.

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