From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:19:15 -0500 Fwd Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:54:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Reasons Why Abductees Don't Post - Lehmberg >From: Katharina Wilson <K_Wilson@alienjigsaw.com> >To: email@example.com >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 09:24:52 -0400 >Subject: Reasons Why Abductees Don't Post >To All: >Over the past year or so I have been wanting to ask several of >my abductee/experiencer friends and acquaintances why they do >not post to the UFO UpDates List. Some people on this List have >wondered why they don't hear from abductees more often. I >thought this might be a good time to ask them. >The following are the responses I received, listed in the order >in which I received them. <snip> >--------------- >I can relate to and understand everything the people above have >stated. I think all abductees can. We have all been in similar >situations and have felt all of these emotions at one time or >another. >The main reason I stopped posting was because of the way certain >people were behaving on the List. It seemed to me that things >were being written about the personal life of an abductee that >were completely unacceptable. >The rule I live by is not to ever divulge information about >another abductee or their experiences unless I have their >express written permission to do so. >The things that were written about one abductee in particular >crossed the line. The fact that it came from a fellow abductee >was one of the most distasteful things I have ever read on the >UFO UpDates List. As Michelle stated above, abductees experience >enough isolation and ridicule from the general public >[especially the debunkers] - to see this type of behavior coming >from one of our own is very sad and it is completely unacceptable. I may resemble some of the above. I may resemble _all_ of the above. I've been challenging, contrary, contentious and quarrelsome, forgetting that I have always been (or tried to be) consistent and conscientious in a manner that would soften those things. I'm perhaps overly passionate about the subject because I see it as the root cause of many, if not all, of our social, cultural, and philosophical ills. UFOs are perhaps too important a subject to be left to a handful of men (and _too_ few women), whatever their qualification or level of professionalism (in a manner similar to war being too important an enterprise to be left to the general officers who officiate it). This explains my tolerant attitude regarding who or what might have some validity or even a shred of the truth... whatever _that_ is. Unable to depend on my community to provide a _quality_ mainstream, I've had to try to determine it for myself. If I have been corrosively offensive to our very tenuous and volatile abduction (or ufological) community (outside of the officious authoritarian, demanding strict adherence to an unsatisfactory, inadequate, and demonstrably unsuccessful "party-line"), well -- I would count it among one of my more deeply felt regrets. My only defense is that I am writing my conscience, sense a contribution to something truly important that I can make (consciousness raising if nothing else), and that I focus my arguments more tightly on the ideas proposed than on the individual proposing them, forgetting that individuals, of needs, must pay freight for their expressions in a _real_ world. No one has told me to "shut [my] pie hole" much less provided me with some good rational why I should, banned me from, perhaps, too prolific participation, or otherwise moderated me in any way... Some may argue that that is symptomatic of what the "problem" is, but I can attest to the fact that Errol Bruce-Knapp has not taken sides, in the larger sense, on any argument in the forum, and he has only ever conducted himself in a manner that befits his role as a facilitator for all useful positions. Look up the word "moderator" in your Funk and Wagnall's and there is very likely a little picture of 'Errol' right _there_. Posting the very highly critical expression I'm responding to here is just the latest example of the egalitarian attitude that Knapp portays and typifies. It just doesn't get any better than this List, ladies and gentlebunkies... I humbly submit that I would be listening closely to PUBLIC (and private) expressions (on _this_ forum) regarding the quality of _my_ contribution to this 'thing' that has captured our interest, and I suggest that _others_, those evaluated as especially troublesome by the community (?), would benefit in a similar manner. If _my_ critic shares even uncomfortable information with me in a non-punitive, intelligent manner, devoid of insults and hidden axes to grind... I am _all_ attention. I'm likely to learn something at the minimum, and at the maximum I will be efficaciously changed. I only ask that you tell me any 'good', along with the enevitable 'bad' if you do... this goes for everyone -- regarding anyone. I know one thing. It is our _co-operation_ that is going to get to the bottom of this thing, not fractious in-fighting and obligatory back-biting. We'd be better served to hang together when we can, if only to preclude the despairing alternative which is, of course, hanging separately. I've got my ears open, along with my eyes, so I'm also open to quality expressions regarding the subject of Ms. Wilson's considered post. We all could be. Read on. 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