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Re: Last Night's Tragedy - Friedman

From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys@brunnet.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 20:35:03 -0300
Fwd Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 13:02:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Last Night's Tragedy - Friedman


 >From: Lan Fleming <lfleming5@houston.rr.com>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >Subject: Re: Last Night's Tragedy
 >Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 11:35:22 -0500

 >>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
 >>Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 20:56:21 EDT
 >>Subject: Last Night's Tragedy
 >>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net

 ><snip>

 >>And the exclusive, classified tape of Gerald Anderson...

 >>Really.

 >>I'm sure that FUFOR recognized it because it was part of their
 >>project to video tape all the Roswell witnesses. I know that
 >>part of that tape was used in Russ Este's documentary, Roswell
 >>Remembered. He arranged with FUFOR to use part of it.

 >>So, I gave up watching it and decided to vent my anger here.
 >>I'll bet Karl could pick apart everything that was wrong with
 >>this show. And I don't know why I listen to what producers say.
 >>I stood in a green room for one of the talk shows and heard one
 >>of the other pro-UFO witnesses (an abductee) ask if Phil Klass
 >>was going to be on the show and the producer said, No. She had
 >>to know that Klass was in the building. I got even with her by
 >>saying that none of us was going to go on. She turned white, but
 >>we did go on. Maybe we all should have walked.

 >>So now I feel a little better and report that I did get a trip
 >>to Washington, D.C. out of it, and I did get to go through the
 >>boxes without having to spend my own money to get there to do
 >>it. I'm glad because there was nothing in those boxes that
 >>provided any enlightenment about the Roswell case.

 >The pre-show hype made a big deal out of the "unidentified metal
 >object." When I saw the flat, triangular box, I immediately had
 >a strong psychic impression that it contained either a Mogul-
 >style Rawin target or a large slice of very old pizza. My first
 >impression proved amazingly accurate. Eat your heart out,
 >Kreskin! :)

 >I don't recall hearing the smooth-talking narrator mention any
 >particular connection between "The Unidentified Metal Object"
 >and Roswell. They also quickly flashed on the screen what they
 >said were routine record logs from the Roswell air base showing
 >(not unsurprisingly) records of routine activities. This went by
 >so fast that I'm really not sure what I was looking at - some
 >hand-printed ledger entries of something or other. If this was
 >the important "evidence" they made it out to be, you'd think
 >they would have slowed down and explained a bit what was flashed
 >on the screen.

 >One point I'm very confused on is why these documents still
 >exist at all. I was under the impression that documents on the
 >daily routine at military basis were usually destroyed after a
 >few years.  At least, that was the claim the Air Force was
 >making when they were giving Congressman Steven Schiff the run-
 >around. Doesn't it seem a bit odd that these routine documents
 >have been preserved for 50 years, while all documents on the
 >extraordinary event itself have disappeared? Whether it was a
 >Mogul balloon or not, the base press release on the "capture of
 >a crashed disc," Marcel's trip to the Brazel ranch, the
 >forwarding of wreckage from Fort Worth to Wright Field by a
 >specially-assigned plane, and General Ramey's subsequent press
 >conference were certainly extraordinary events that I would
 >think would be documented somewhere. Yet there seems to be not a
 >trace left of any documents concerning these events.


Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There is loads of
old information that is still highly classified.

The FBI stated way back in 1949 that the army and Air Force
consider the topic of flying saucers as Top Secret. We have seen
very little formerly Top Secret UFO material.

With the exception of the 156 TOP SECRET UMBRA UFO documents
'Released' by the NSA 16 years after the request and with all
but 1 or 2 lines not whited out, we have essentially NO TOP
SECRET CODE WORD UFO documents.

The Eisenhower Library had a drawerful of TS Code word stuff.
The Truman Library had half a file drawer. The Kennedy Library
had 10 drawers.

It is clear that much high security material doesn't get sent to
the Presidential Library at the end of the term, but gets
carried over. There is a lot of Truman era NSC material at the
Ike Library, for example.

The CIA insisted, even after appeal, that they had no files on 4
Briefings that W.B. Smith (DCI) had given Ike between Nov. 4,
1952 and January 9, 1953. I don't believe it for a moment.


Stan Friedman




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