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Re: Request For Investigative & Remedial

From: Bill Hamilton <skywatcher22@space.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 06:46:43 -0700 (PDT)
Fwd Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 21:18:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Request For Investigative & Remedial

 >From: Steven Kaeser <steve@konsulting.com>
 >To: <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >Subject: Re: Request For Investigative & Remedial Intervention
 >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:54:15 -0400

 >>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
 >>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >>Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:57:58 -0400
 >>Subject: Re: Request For Investigative & Remedial Intervention


 >>They _all_ agree that what they saw was a "metallic disc". I'll
 >>take their word over Kevin's or the Air Force's about what was
 >>in the sky that day and subsequently 'chased' by Mantell. I wish
 >>I could recall the name of the program that featured the Mantell
 >>family. It aired just a few years ago. Maybe a Listerion can
 >>help out with this one. It was one of those 'first person(s)'
 >>interviews that anyone interested in the case should listen to.

 >I believe that was an early episode of 'Sightings'. I believe
 >they went back to the crash site and actually located some small
 >metallic pieces of the aircraft that had been missed by the
 >military many years earlier. If someone has the Sightings
 >publication on UFO subjects, the Mantell case may be one of the
 >featured items.

Also, I received this report from one of my correspondents about
the Mantell case which changes my mind about this classic

"I spoke with the P-51 pilot about Mantell. This is what he

Mantell was returning to Fort Knox area from Macon, GA with four
other P-51s. Mantell was not very experienced with the P-51
since he was actually a C-47 (Goony Bird) pilot. He had only
recently become a fighter pilot and had very little experience
with this high performance fighter.

Mantell was also not familiar with the "demand'"oxygen feed
system of the P-51. When you would use this system, it took
"hard sucking" on it to get proper amounts of oxygen especially
at high altitudes. They suspect that Mantell did not turn on the
oxygen system to begin with. The oxygen system knob was still in
a closed position inside the crashed plane. The P-51 had a
ceiling of about 34,000 ft. For their model of the plane. Later
the P-51 had higher capabilities.

As they approached Godman Field, the balloon was sighted and
since it was later found to be a secret Navy Weather Balloon
mission, the base control tower nor any of these pilots knew
what it was. It did appear as a saucer or round silvery object
at extreme altitude.

Mantell and two other pilots were ordered to investigate it and
Mantell was chosen to be the pilot to do so.

He climbed and kept on climbing reporting as he continued. No
report of a saucer was heard by the tower as reported by many
UFOlogists. As Mantell reached the max ceiling of his aircraft,
his radio became silent. He had passed out due to lack of oxygen
and his not being familiar with the oxygen system and its proper

His P-51 went into a steep dive and reached about 500 MPH when
one wing fell off due to structural failure.

He was hitting Mach .87 when he hit the earth. The plane hit on
its side due to the loss of one wing.

It buried itself into the earth and covered half the aircraft.
He has photos of the plane in the ground and I (Clark) have seen
them. No holes were found in the metal as it has been reported.
At least as far as this pilot recalls.

That's the report of a P-51 pilot that WAS THERE."

Does this seem fairly accurate to anyone familiar with this

-Bill Hamilton

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