From: Stig Agermose <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 04:23:08 +0200 Fwd Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 20:59:45 -0400 Subject: Interview with Discoverer of 'Map of the Creator' Source: Pravda http://english.pravda.ru/chuvirov.html Stig *** PRAVDA.Ru will hold a press-conference on June 6 with Doctor of physics and mathematics, professor of the State University of Bashkiria, Alexander Chuvyrov. This scientist found the infallible proof about the existence of the ancient highly-developed civilization. He found a huge stone slab, which was 120 million years old, with a relief map of the Ural region on it. Photos [link] Read the article about it: MAP OF "THE CREATOR" [link] 3-D MAP OF THE EARTH CREATED MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO [link] ON-LINEPRESS CONFERENCE OF ALEXANDR CHUVYROV [link] *** Pravda.RU: on-line 16:20 PRAVDA.Ru, Moscow Good afternoon, Alexandr Nikolaevich! We are glad to see you in our office. We would like to notice that the material about your find was read by at least 500 thousand readers of both English and Russian versions of our edition. Already before the conference, there were about 60 questions, so taking into account the time limits, you should manage to answer as more questions as possible. Let us begin. C: Thank you for the possibility to tell about my find. I on myself could judge about the number of people who have read the publications. Just after they were published, correspondents of foreign TV channels and of different editions started to call me. And I am thankful for this, too, because you have drawn attention of world information agencies to my discovery. I would try to give short answers to answer to all readers. And afterwards, I would prepare more detailed answers. 16:37 Novosibirsk Dear Professor, and what about the Charles Darwin theory? Or probably the age of anthropoid apes is in actual fact much older? Could, for example, a conclusion be made basing on your find that people lived already in the epoch of dinosaurs? C: Unfortunately, I have never asked myself about the possible creator of the slab covered with the map. My task was simple: I had to investigate the found object and to describe it, to investigate materials of which the slab was made and to try to answer the question about the object's age. 16:49 email@example.com In what region was the slab found? Is it far from the described territory? Are there any surmises about where the other slabs could be? Probably, if other slabs are found, the question about Athlantida will be answered? C: The slab was found at a distance of 120 km from the city of Ufa, in Chandar settlement. Today, we can speak about location of five more slabs, while raising of them needs additional financing. As for the Athlantida, I am not a specialist on this field. Sir, Dino Pogodin, San Paolo (Brazil) Are there any publication about the find in international scientific magazines? If there are some, so where? And what was foreign scientists' reaction to your find? C: Unfortunately, there are only publications in Russian- language magazines, for example in Prirodnye Resursy, number 12, for the year 1999. Though, many foreign scientists have addressed to my through the Internet, offering co-operation. The work has been just started. 17:10 Los Angeles What made you to carry out searches namely in that place and at that depth? Why did you suppose that this would be namely the first slab of the 200 as if making up the whole map? And why namely that piece of the map was found which presents the region? Why no more slab was found? Do you completely exclude the possibility of a forgery? C: There are special methods to identify places according to maps, for example, through hydrological situation, to be more exact, through identifying rivers, lakes etc. This could be also done through certain characteristics of relief, for example, through mountains, vales etc. There are computer methods which allow to do it very fast. On the other hand, changes of relief are well known, which took place over latest millions of years, there are special computer programmes allowing to modulate these processes. These methods were used in our work. As for the full number of the slabs, I consider information to be true about archaelogical finds from 1921. There is information about six slabs, so we will speak about these six slabs. 17:17 St Petersburg Has your find some links with today's views on appearance of our civilization? C: I repeat it one more time: I do not occupy myself with civilizations' appearance or disappearance. I only investigate the object and its characteristics and present results of my investigation. There are many things I cannot explain. If you have some explanations, please, present them. 17:10 Los Angeles What made you carry out searches namely in that place and at that depth? Why did you suppose that this would be namely the first slab of the 200 as if making up the whole map? And why namely that piece of the map was found which presents the region? Why no more slab was found? Do you completely exclude the possibility of a forgery? C: There are special methods to identify places according to maps, for example, through hydrological situation, to be more exact, through identifying rivers, lakes etc. This could be also done through certain characteristics of relief, for example, through mountains, vales etc. There are computer methods which allow to do it very fast. On the other hand, changes of relief are well known, which took place over latest millions of years, there are special computer programmes allowing to modulate these processes. These methods were used in our work. As for the full number of the slabs, I consider information to be true about archaelogical finds from 1921. There is information about six slabs, so we will speak about these six slabs. 17:36 Norilsk Where could I find the slab's picture, and if possible, of high quality? C: In the nearest future, PRAVDA.Ru will publish a series of photographs. You could work with them. 17:38 Vadim Surikov, Harbin, China Good afternoon, Professor! Do you know something about views on this question of Yelena Blavatskaya (the author of The Secret Doctrine) or of somebody of her associates? What do you think about theosophy ideas? I am not interested in theosophy. The greatest specialist in theosophy is Mrs Huang Hung, my post-graduate student from China. I am not a religious person. The title The Map of the Creator is just a collective notion. 17:50 Rudolf and Vladimir, Moscow Dear Mr Chuvyrov! Several questions to you. 1. Which methods did you use to determine the age of the slab you have found? 2. Who were that scientists who investigated the slab? 3. As a matter of fact, this slab is not an ordinary scientific sensation, but a serious material proof of how little we know about our planed. If possible, could you appraise in percent the level of journalistic distortion of information about the slab published by PRAVDA.Ru. Thank you. A special commission worked at the problem. Therefore, this is a result of many people's work. At the same time, there are delicate questions: for example, the questions about the inscription, about materials of what the slab was produced, about the map on the slab. On these questions, we had consultations with the Chinese. As for journalists, we should not criticize them, because their aim is to present some information to average readers, without burdening them with some scientific theories. 18:09 Ostroukhov Nikolay Dear Alexander, our institute developed a geo-radar that can search for foreign bodies at the depth of up to 50 meters under the ground and at the depth of up to 100 meters under the ice and fresh water. This radar is currently manufactured. Let's discuss the opportunities for our equipment to search for other fragments. Please call (347) 2286278 18:18 Sergey 1. Can I find any photographs of the stone on the net? 2. What is it that the stone is made of? Isn't the material too primitive? 3. Was the stone painted, like modern relief maps? 4. Were there any traces to indicate some kind of automation, for example lamp lights, wire traces or anything like that? 5. What do you think is the stone meant for? C: There can be lots of materials made up, but they chose that method, there was such a technology, apparently. The fact that the map consists of three layers, is identified with bad quality of the base layer, that is why they used geopsid glass of high microhardness indication. I cannot answer questions number three and four 18:22 Ivan This is just a cracky stone and you made God knows what out of it. C: Unfortunately, no one had enough fantasy to suppose a thing like that. 18:30 Alma-Ata 1. Will the search continue to find more stones with relief maps? 2. If there are new slabs found, will it prove that there were highly-developed civilizations on the planet that most likely left other traces of their existence on Earth and in the Solar system? 3. What struck you most in your discovery and what are your subjective ideas that you have not shared yet with the readers? C: The stone itself struck me most. The location of five other stones is known and if there are enough funds assigned for the works, then they will be retrieved and exhibited in museums. The slabs are located in different settlements of the Nurimansky region of the republic of Bashkiria. The question pertaining to highly-developed civilizations is outside my competence. A special international committee is supposed to answer this question after five other slabs are found. Are there any more slabs? It is an important and interesting question, but it is for the next generation. 18:33 Sergey Sokolov, Moscow Dear Professor Chuvyrov, I would like to get more detailed information about the inscriptions on the map. Is there a photograph or an URL, where I could see that? C: The photographs are going to be published on PRAVDA.Ru very soon 18:45 Igor Danilov, St.Petersburg Could you please explain in simple language the way how the age of the stone lump and of the map was identified? How do you distinguish those things? What proves in your discovery that the civilization was a highly-developed one? The way that the map was done, or is there any other evidence? C: This is not a lump, it is an artificial slab, and the relief map was done artificially too. Unfortunately, there is only an indirect way to identify the age of the map - paleontological or paleomagnetic method. Unfortunately, the uranic, or the argon methods can identify only the absolute age of the rock that was not used in the material of the map. The fact that the civilization was a highly-developed one can be proved with the absence of a 3-D map of the world nowadays. Another thing that can prove it is the knowledge of the written language and of the physical and mathematical laws. 18:54 Irina Has the place changed a lot since the moment, when the map was done? C: Of course, it has, but the Ural region is a quite place seismically, that is why the area wasp lace due to erosion. One of the whole, the territory has not really changed for millions of year. NASA is working on the program to create 3D maps and you can become familiar with the results on their site. 19:08 Ivan Hello, Professor, After the information about your sensational discovery was published on the Internet, you became a famous person. You must be receiving a lot of letters, journalists must be getting in long lines to interview you? C: No, I have not yet had those things. I do not have much time to answer all letters, this is hard work, I quit my job a month ago and now I am working with my epistolary genre. Thank you! 19:34 Vasily Did you receive a grand reaction to your discovery? C: They wrote a lot about it. The articles about the map appeared in such Russian newspapers as Komsomolskaya Pravda, Izvestia, Argumenty I Fakty, there were television programs. But when PRAVDA.Ru wrote about the discovery, I received tons of e- mails, over 20 thousand of them! Foreign television channels from Italy, Japan, Finland, Sweden, Germany wanted to interview me. My son found out how many people read the material that PRAVDA.Ru published and he told me that there were not less than two million people, not to mention those newspapers and magazines that reprinted your article in the West. I have received interesting scientific suggestions, which gave me food for thought. Thank you a lot! 19:58 Danila Dear Professor Chuvyrov, I would like to ask you a question regarding the identification of the slab's age. Did you analyze the stone itself, or the ground that filled the cracks of the stone? C: We analyzed the material of the stone. There are no cracks on it. There is a map of rivers and valleys that was cut on it with special instruments. ** Copyright 1999 by "Pravda.RU". When reproducing our materials in whole or in part, reference to Pravda.RU should be made.
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