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Re: Request For Investigative & Remedial

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:32:35 EDT
Fwd Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:59:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Request For Investigative & Remedial

 >Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:21:58 -0400
 >To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
 >Subject: Re: Request For Investigative & Remedial Intervention

 >>From: Larry W. Bryant <overtci@cavtel.net>
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >>Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 05:13:27 -0400
 >>Subject: Request For Investigative & Remedial Intervention


Good Afternoon, All -

John Velez commented:

 >I commented that one of the first things that would happen would
 >be a flurry of litigation. Not just from families like the
 >Mantell's who actually lost a loved one and were never told the
 >truth, but from each and every citizen they impotently _allowed_
 >to be repeatedly abducted and traumatized.

I think that it's pretty clear that Mantell's family was told
the truth but declined to believe it. Yes, the Air Force handled
it poorly, tossing out explanations faster than Don Schmitt. In
the final analysis, and I think most will agree, Mantell was
killed chasing a skyhook balloon.

His family has received the file. I know because I sent it to
them and it had been available for more than twenty years. Yes,
the Air Force dropped the public relations ball here too, but
they're very good at that.

The thing we must remember is that aircraft accident
investigations are classified and for good reason. It promotes
the free flow of information. Yes, that reads like a
contradiction, but the reason is this. Officers afraid that
their commanders will read what they said during the
investigation of an accident will say what they believe the
commander would like to hear rather than provide solid and
untainted information. If they know that the commander will not
see the testimony, only be given the investigation's conclusions
about cause, they are more likely to tell everything they know.

It should also be noted here that the cause of this crash was
pilot error. Yeah, I hate that conclusion because, as a former
military pilot, it seemed that they blamed everything on pilot
error especially when the pilot was not around to defend
himself. In this case, however, Mantell climbed above 12,000
feet with no oxygen equipment in violation of regulations. In
fact, he pushed to over 20,000 feet and blacked out. He never
regained consciousness as his F-51 flew into the ground.

Which is not to say that Mantell was a bad pilot. Clearly, given
his record during WW II (he received the DFC during the invasion
of Normandy) he was a good pilot who made a single mistake. The
UFO has been identified and the cause of the crash was not


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