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Re: Alfred's Odd Observation #17 - Velez

From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 21:16:19 -0400
Fwd Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 23:02:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Alfred's Odd Observation #17 - Velez

 >From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 11:51:26 -0500
 >Subject: Alfred's Odd Observation #17

 >Alfred's Odd Observation #17 (Saturday -- June 8, 2002)

 >Outside visibility here in oppressive Alabama has been as
 >transparent as a dirty buttermilk-glass, the humidity as
 >overbearing as Nipple-napper Ashcroft's justice department, and
 >all the effects of global warming are centered, seemingly,
 >squarely on my exact geographic coordinates! Only the bugs are
 >held in magical abeyance by the Bounce rag; however, or I would
 >assuredly be driven indoors.

 >Still, they fly.

 >Oh admittedly, they don't fly grandly, conclusively, or even
 >brilliantly of late... Still, they fly.

 >And it's a taste ironic for me as, lately, there's a lot of
 >impassioned discussion about UFOs all going "away", going "out",
 >or going "beyond." "Abductions are decreasing," some
 >pontificate. "Sightings are down," others pronounce. Forgetting
 >for a moment that this gets the CSICOP Youngbob/Sheaffer
 >skeptibunkies capering around gladly like frolicking wood-
 >nymphs, it really only apes some kind of sweaty bandwagon many
 >seem to be jumping on... in some 'king-of-the-hill' attempt to
 >be 'first' proclaiming some 'new reality' regarding UFOs...?
 >Specious stuff and turgid nonsense.

 >I see it as chasing a false plausible in a furtive attempt to
 >only 'appear' cutting edge. I see it as playing into the hands
 >of the transparently deceptive. I see it as pandering to the
 >misleading and embracing, too greedily, the flatulent
 >ostensible. I see it as courting the readily sophistical,
 >incorporating the onerous captious, or being at best shallowly
 >pretentious and at worst in 'evil' retrograde. It favorably
 >considers a falsehood, and it associates itself with the
 >absolute weakest of what's all too easily or most conveniently

Hello Alfred,

You wrote:

 >Sightings are "down" friends and scabrous bunkies, not because
 >UFOs are going away, but because there are fewer people LOOKING
 >for them these days! Lately, people who might otherwise be
 >pondering the skies are, instead, only looking over worried
 >shoulders for 'enemies', real AND imagined. They have no TIME
 >for a puzzling enigma in the skies over their heads while
 >staring down the suggested barrel of a terrorist's gun! All
 >part of the master plan (uneasily?) dismissed by Jerry Clark?

It's an amazing thing to watch someone take a leaping swan dive
into the deep end of an empty cement pool. Oblivious to the fact
that there is no water beneath to break the fall.

Since you mentioned (made wild accusations about) the 'abduction
report' thread I'd like to point out the following:

Mark Rodigheir of CUFOS made the statement that 'new' abduction
reports to that organization were down for the last couple of
years. I wrote a post that was in agreement with it. Will
Beuche, the former Webmaster of PEER wrote in to corroborate my
and Marks statements. Simple statements (or reporting) of fact.
Nothing as 'sinister' as you imply ever transpired.

You create a fantasy in your own head,

your 'imaginings' piss you off,

and then you express anger toward people in the *real world
(*those who live their lives outside of your fantasy) as if they
were _actually_ responsible for their behavior in your somewhat
fevered dreams.

How you manage to turn a simple series of posts into the
convoluted and genuinely paranoid plot that you suggest above,
boggles my mind.

Lately you've taken to attacking some of the 'good-guys' Alfred.
Maybe a short vacation from the fray is in order. When you start
to perceive plots and schemes everywhere, and you see 'spooks'
lurking in every corner... it's time to do a Dave Brubeck and
'take five' bro.

Get a grip. You've created a veritable soap-opera out of what
was essentially a pretty dry, innocuous and short-lived series
of posts. Check the archive and reread em. Nothing 'heavy' going
on except inside your head.  :)

John Velez

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