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Re: UFO Frauds - Aldrich

From: Jan Aldrich <project1947@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 21:46:53 -0400
Fwd Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 09:02:56 -0400
Subject: Re: UFO Frauds - Aldrich

 >From: Don Ecker <decker1@attbi.com>
 >To: <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >Subject: Re: UFO Frauds
 >Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 14:23:51 -0700

 >>From: Bill Hamilton <skywatcher22@space.com>
 >>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >>Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 08:26:59 -0700 (PDT)
 >>Subject: Re: UFO Frauds

 >>>From: Jan Aldrich <project1947@earthlink.net>
 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >>>Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 16:25:7 -0400
 >>>Subject: Re: UFO Frauds


 >>>Those who might wish to read the Guy Kirkwood/Mel Noel saga may
 >>>click on


 >>>Kirkwood can't exit the scene, but he keeps coming back every
 >>>few years. There is always a new corp of suckers for his
 >>>stories. There is indeed one born every minute.

 >>>Con-men are indeed convincing, that is their game.

 >>This is a conclusion to reach when you just read articles and
 >>don't do real research enough to know which parts of this
 >>article are inaccurate.

 >>-Bill H

 >Okay Gang;

 >I have been busy but still have been lurking the List. I have
 >been following the thread on Kirkwood and had no intention of
 >joining in on something I felt I put to bed about 10 or 11 years
 >ago. Then I saw the remark by Bill Hamilton suggesting my
 >article is "inaccurate".

 >Whoa Bubba, this ain't gonna slide.

 >First, before we ever printed the article on Guy the Shyster, I
 >had him sitting in my kitchen and gave him the proofs to read
 >and if he chose to refute anything, he had his chance even
 >before the article ran. By a month.

 >Next I gave him the chance, and waited OVER ONE YEAR for him to
 >produce his DD 214. Nebba Happen GI.

 >I interviewed Don Dornan for the article. For those of you that
 >do not know who he is, his brother was Rep. Robert Dornan of
 >Orange County Calf. or as he is known..... B 1 Bob Dornan.
 >Dornan interviewed Kirkwood, Noel, Cornwall back in the 60's
 >about his story. Bob Dornan was a F-100 Super Sabre Pilot and he
 >knew Kirkwood was full-of-it. Exposed him on LA TV. Etc. etc.
 >etc. I could go on but what is the use?

 >Now Bill Hamilton... what the hell is inaccurate? Shovel it out
 >Pal, or just admit you got taken... again.

Thanks, Don.

Bill, I do not appreciate your comments.

Did you get a copy of any of Kirkwood's/Noel's documents?

Why does this turkey have two names, in the 1950's he was
Mel Noel, super fighter pilot?

As I said, we did interview Kirkwood for SHG. He is on video
tape. I am aware of his activities and claims going back to
1950's; apparently you are not. I also know that he has been
exposed a number of times, dropped out, gone away, and returned
when the heat cooled down. Most recently he has reappeared
again. In his later years he started using Guy Kirkwood handle.
His supposed associates that he claims were in the squadron with
him can't be located or in the case of one individual will not
confirm anything that Kirkwood claims.

Recently, I met with Robert Klinn in Las Vegas. We also
discussed the long and crazy career of Noel/Kirkwood among other
things. Klinn was rather put out that we even interviewed
Kirkwood. While Don's article may have some inaccuracies, you
have failed to point any out. There is nothing accurate about
Kirkwood except that he continues to spread talltales wherever
he goes. He can still sucker people in. He did to you, Bill.

Here is the challenge, Bill, just what research have you done on
Kirkwood/Cornwall/Noel other that listen to his tall tales? I am
awaiting your answer with great anticipation.

Jan Aldrich
Project 1947
P. O. Box 391
Canterbury, CT 06331
(860) 546-9135

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