From: Lan Fleming <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 19:26:10 -0500 Fwd Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:15:11 -0400 Subject: Re: 'Media Not Covering-Up' - Fleming >From: Dave Bowden <email@example.com> >To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> >Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 13:27:59 +0100 >Subject: Re: 'Media Not Covering-Up' >You're right Lan, I am probably mistaken but I did say in my >post I'd like to see it, I should have added 'not read about >it'. If you'd said that "all UFO's that appear to be a 'nut's and bolt's' spacecraft" are claimed to be hoaxes by skeptic clubs, you'd have been pretty close to the truth, I think. But that's a lot different than saying they all "turn out" to be hoaxes, since reasonable people, some with sufficient scientific backgrounds to speak with authority, dispute these claims in some cases. >At the risk of causing carpal tunnel syndrome could I ask if you >might do this 'on-list' since I'm sure there are others out >there who would also be interested. Why don't you do a Google search for the Trindade photos or the Trent photos? The Trent photos, among other interesting ones, are on Bruce Maccabee's web site. Naturally, skeptics have claimed that the Trindade and Trent photos are hoaxes, a claim they've made for every other photograph that clearly shows what appears to be a structured unconventional aircraft. The only exceptions to the seemingly reflexive assertions of hoax are NASA photos. Obviously, no skeptic in good standing would claim that NASA hoaxes photographs, so they have to rely on the shuttle debris explanation for those. I think it's actually a quite reasonable explanation for many of the cases I'm aware of. But there is one for which I think that explanation is not at all plausible: STS- 80. While most shuttle 'UFOs' appear to be aimlessly drifting dots, the STS-80 video shows one object that at some points in the sequence exhibits a definite structure, (although it's not large enough to see exactly what its shape is). It and other objects move in a most peculiar manner for aimlessly drifting debris - decelerating rapidly, reversing course, and moving on converging paths. The 3-minute video can be downloaded at: http://ufo_videos.purgatory.com/videos/sts80.mpe It's about 7MB, so it helps if you have broad band.
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