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Re: 'Media Not Covering-Up' - Fleming

From: Lan Fleming <lfleming5@houston.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 19:26:10 -0500
Fwd Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:15:11 -0400
Subject: Re: 'Media Not Covering-Up' - Fleming

 >From: Dave Bowden <grafikfx@lineone.net>
 >To: <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 13:27:59 +0100
 >Subject: Re: 'Media Not Covering-Up'

 >You're right Lan, I am probably mistaken but I did say in my
 >post I'd like to see it, I should have added 'not read about

If you'd said that "all UFO's that appear to be a 'nut's and
bolt's' spacecraft" are claimed to be hoaxes by skeptic clubs,
you'd have been pretty close to the truth, I think. But that's a
lot different than saying they all "turn out" to be hoaxes,
since reasonable people, some with sufficient scientific
backgrounds to speak with authority, dispute these claims in
some cases.

 >At the risk of causing carpal tunnel syndrome could I ask if you
 >might do this 'on-list' since I'm sure there are others out
 >there who would also be interested.

Why don't you do a Google search for the Trindade photos or the
Trent photos? The Trent photos, among other interesting ones,
are on Bruce Maccabee's web site.

Naturally, skeptics have claimed that the Trindade and Trent
photos are hoaxes, a claim they've made for every other
photograph that clearly shows what appears to be a structured
unconventional aircraft.

The only exceptions to the seemingly reflexive assertions of
hoax are NASA photos. Obviously, no skeptic in good standing
would claim that NASA hoaxes photographs, so they have to rely
on the shuttle debris explanation for those.

I think it's actually a quite reasonable explanation for many of
the cases I'm aware of. But there is one for which I think that
explanation is not at all plausible: STS- 80. While most shuttle
'UFOs' appear to be aimlessly drifting dots, the STS-80 video
shows one object that at some points in the sequence exhibits a
definite structure, (although it's not large enough to see
exactly what its shape is). It and other objects move in a most
peculiar manner for aimlessly drifting debris - decelerating
rapidly, reversing course, and moving on converging paths. The
3-minute video can be downloaded at:


It's about 7MB, so it helps if you have broad band.

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