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Re: Bill Uhouse & Area 51 'Greys' - Randle

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 12:27:28 EDT
Fwd Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 16:10:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Bill Uhouse & Area 51 'Greys' - Randle

 >From: Bill Hamilton <skywatcher22@space.com>
 >To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:44:42 -0700 (PDT)
 >Subject: Re: Bill Uhouse & Area 51 'Greys'

 >>From: Erik Landahl <cubman1@mindspring.com>
 >>To: <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >>Subject: Bill Uhouse & Area 51 'Aliens'
 >>Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 23:08:51 -0700


 >I noticed that Kevin Randle has agreed with Stanton Friedman on
 >Mel Noel (AKA Guy Kirkwood) and his story while he flew an F-86
 >Sabre jet back in 54. I recently talked with Guy at Rachel and
 >he passed around his military record of honorable discharge
 >(DD214) together with several pages of a United Airlines roster
 >with his name on it while he worked for that company. I saw no
 >evidence of record tampering, but these records could not be
 >found by public access. I do not have copies of these at this
 >time, but I have also seen photos of Guy in flight gear in the
 >cockpit of an F-86 when looking much younger. I suspect that
 >someone has tampered with his records as discovered by an FAA
 >investigator a few years ago when Guy was flying a private plane
 >and had to make an emergency landing on a freeway.

Here is the point I was trying to make. We have good evidence
that Mel Noel, who is also Guy Kirkwood, is not who he says he
is. Don Ecker did an expose of him in UFO magazine and yet, here
we are, suggesting that someone has tampered with his records.

Well, I agree, but I think we know who that was. He has
presented a DD-214 that no one can get through public access.
There is no good evidence that he is who he said he is, or that
his stories are true. Instead we hear that someone tampered with
his records.

As they tampered with Bob Lazar's records when no one could
corroborate what he said.

Or that Gerald Anderson provided some documentation for his
story, but no one could corroborate it and we know that he
forged two documents... his telephone bill and his high school
transcript... and now his Navy service is in question because it
is clear that he was not a SEAL as he claimed.

Or that Cliff Stone wasn't trained as a clerk typist when his
record showed that he was and that all his assignments in the
Army were in administration... which he denies.

Or that Don Schmitt didn't work at the Post Office and that he
had taken classes as several universities that had no record of

I could go on here, but the real point is that we know there are
problems with this but we ignore the problems. Those who had
done what they claim can easily prove it and don't have to
retreat into someone altered my records... or my missions were
so highly classified that there is no record of them... or the
government is out to discredit me. We continue to support these
people, knowing of the holes, the gaps and the outright
distortions, but as long as we like the message, we ignore the
problem. Then when the media won't talk to us, we blame the
media, rather than those who have lied their way into the
spotlight, been exposed, and endorsed once again. No wonder no
one listens to us. We can't even keep our own house straight.


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