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Re: Roswell Threads - Morris

From: Neil Morris <neil@adm1.ph.man.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 13:05:28 +0000
Fwd Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 17:58:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Roswell Threads - Morris

 >From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman@psln.com>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >Subject: Re: Roswell 'Threads'
 >Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:50:05 -0800

 >>Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 19:45:16 +0000
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >>From: Neil Morris <neil@adm1.ph.man.ac.uk>
 >>Subject: Roswell 'Threads'

Ed posed the following question to Andrew Lavoie regarding his
measurement of the Fort Worth debris, as Andrew is still in the
process of subscribing to UpDates he's asked me to post the
following reply to Ed's question. Neil.



 >Thanks for your efforts to unravel the Fort Worth debris
 >puzzle. I'm surprised that your measurements have not received
 >any comments from the List but I have one question: How are you
 >sure that your measurements using the carpet stripes are

 >Could you explain?



The method I'm using I believe is very accurate. The key to
measuring the debris is to obtain the mesaurement of an item for
which there would be no doubt about it's dimension. I was able
to obtain this by identifying the type of heating radiator used
in Ramey's office using Neil's scans and three engineering
mechanical design sources. Once the radiator was identified, I
was able to obtain the sectional width of the radiator. Knowing
the sectional width, which is a solid measurement, the radiator
and the carpet stripes were modeled. As a cross check, I took a
measurement of the radiator height and it was within +2.7% of
the required design height for this type of radiator.

The proof in the pudding though was to measure a piece(s) of
debris for which I knew the measurements of. The debris items I
could identify with was the two stiffners which intersect each
other in the RameyDubose photo. Professor Moore provided me with
very precise measurements of the stiffners in millimeters. The
first set of sketches I forwarded to Neil was of the stiffner
located on the floor. I could not reconcile the dimensions of
that stiffner to any of Professor Moore's measurements. The
measured height of the stiffner was out by - 66% and the width
by -131% as compared to Professor Moore's dimensions. It appears
that this stiffner may not belong to the rawin target. I was
able to reconcile the height of the stiffner attached to the
panel with Professor Moor's measurement, but not the width of
the stiffner. The height of the stiffner was within 99% of
Professor Moore's measurement but the width was smaller by about
- 66% or 2/3rds. As well, the overall shape of the stiffner did
not look like what you would expect to see based on Professor
Moore's measurements.

I hope this helps,


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