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Re: New Year Agenda - Rudiak

From: David Rudiak <DRudiak@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:11:51 EST
Fwd Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 16:12:43 -0500
Subject: Re: New Year Agenda - Rudiak

 >From: Stan Friedman <fsphys@brunnet.net>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >Subject: Re: New Year Agenda
 >Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 08:58:16 -0400


 >Shades of McCoy's Secret (not Top Secret code word) briefing to
 >a USAF Scientific Advisory Panel.


I think even more important than the Secret classification of
this meeting of the AFSAP, was the fact that Project Sign, which
McCoy headed, was classified at a very lowly Restricted level.

Yet I have seen Karl Pflock claim that McCoy and Project Sign
would certainly have known about any crashed saucers because
they were charged with investigating the saucers.

( e.g., you can view his NBC Today show debate with Kevin Randle
where he says this:

http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/609170.asp )

Unless crashed saucers were classified at only a Restricted
level, this is clearly a bogus argument.

Pflock also claims that this is the most convincing evidence he
has seen to date that there was no saucer crash at Roswell. If
this is the _best_ he can come up with, then obviously the
Roswell case is alive and well.

For a document from McCoy stating that Sign was classified at
only a Restricted level, Updates readers can go to:


In the preceding series of documents, McCoy had been trying to
get a UFO radar surveillance network set up, ironically first
starting with the AF weather service because they used radar to
track the RAWIN weather targets. They begged off and passed him
to Watson Labs, who then sent him to the Air Defence Command.
The ADC agreed to cooperate and send on any UFO cases, but
wanted to classify them Secret. To this McCoy responded:

"Paragraph 6 of 7th Indorsement states that required reports
will be classified 'Secret'. Project 'Sign' bears the
classsification 'Restricted'. Therefore, reports should not be
classified higher than 'Restricted' unless the source or unusual
circumstances warrant higher classification."

McCoy was practically begging them not to send more highly
classified material because of the very low classification of
Project Sign. Yet Pflock claims McCoy _surely_ would have known.
Obviously this is complete nonsense.

The same is true of all other documents where the authors claim
there is no physical evidence, such as the Twining memo of Sept.
23, 1947 urging the formation of Project Sign. That was
classified at a higher Secret level, but still not high enough
to have revealed the existence of a crashed saucer. Furthermore,
it was Twining's intent to have the memo distributed to a large
number of government agencies he wanted to participate in his
proposed future saucer investigation, whereas acknowledgement of
a saucer crash would have highly restricted access.

If Pflock can produce a Top Secret document with Twining flatly
denying the existence of a crashed saucer to somebody like Pres.
Truman or Gen. Vandenberg then maybe I could buy this argument.
Otherwise there is nothing to it.

Will Karl Pflock respond to this?

David Rudiak

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