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Re: New Year Agenda - Randle

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:40:46 EST
Fwd Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:38:15 -0500
Subject: Re: New Year Agenda - Randle

 >Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 16:37:20 -0600
 >Subject: Re: New Year Agenda
 >From: Dennis Stacy <dstacy@texas.net>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>


 >Let me "trot" Lorenzo Kent Kimball out one last time. A
 >Professor Emeritus of Political Science at the University of
 >Utah, he died on June 10, 1999. Here's his obit:



 >[Kimball] My response: I am at a loss to understand how you can
 >state that I had no clearance to the flight line or hangars. The
 >fact is, I had a Top Secret clearance and was very often on the
 >flight line and in many of the hangars for a variety of reasons,
 >including participation in training programs, familiarization
 >programs, and taking actual flights in different aircraft,
 >including training missions. Also, staff meetings were held by
 >Major Comstock for the express purposes of sharing information
 >about what was going on not only at the hospital but on the base
 >in general and to discuss any unusual problems. I did not
 >perform my duties, and there were many, in a vacuum.

Dennis, List, all -

Let me make a few observations here. First, a top secret
clearance does not mean automatic clearance to see all top
secret material. There is such a thing as need to know which
disqualifies many who hold top secret clearances from getting
into material that they have no need to know (At the risk of
starting another thread, let me point out that Robert Dean's
claim to have seen the cosmic top secret document about a UFO
crash fails at this point... Dean had no need to know and
shouldn't have seen the document, if it ever existed). So that
fact that Lorenzo had a top secret clearance isn't all that

Second, he said that he was frequently on the flight line and in
the hangars and I really have no doubt about it. The question I
would have asked is if he had a "line" badge that allowed him
access, what restrictions might have been on the line badge, and
if, when he was required for his duties on the flight line of
hangars, if he was escorted by someone else whose line badge
didn't have the same restrictions. Well, I guess that's more
than one question, but the point is that he might have been in
the hangars and on the flight line frequently, but it could also
be that he had to be escorted because to complete his duties did
not require unlimited access to the flight line or the hangars.

Finally, I might point out that meetings held with the commander
of the medical detachment didn't necessarily include everything
that was going on at the base. The recovery of an alien craft,
if that's what happened, could be accomplished without having to
make it known to the medical supply officer, or other members of
the medical staff such as the dentists, or most of the nurses.
It would not be required that these activities be discussed in
front of the full staff, so it is conceivable that Lorenzo might
not have been involved and might not have had any knowledge of
the events.

All of this is just my take on this, based on the information
presented. I asked the questions of Lorenzo that I thought
important, believed his answers to be accurate and truthful, and
found little that was of relevance to the investigation of the


(Who really should be working on the novel).

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