From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 04:54:14 -0600 Fwd Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:24:15 -0500 Subject: Re: New Year Agenda - Lehmberg >Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 14:14:48 -0600 >Subject: Re: New Year Agenda >From: Dennis Stacy <firstname.lastname@example.org> >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <email@example.com> >>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com> >>Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 09:15:49 EST >>Subject: Re: New Year Agenda >>To: firstname.lastname@example.org ><snip> >>The problem is, if the event took place and it was truly >>classified, then those who were not involved would not be >>expected to know anything about it. You simply do not discuss >>classified material with those who are not cleared to hear it. >>Yes, you can talk all you want about senators and politicians >>compromising classified material, but we're talking about a >>special unit that dealt with highly classified material all the >>time. If a specific pilot was not involved and now claims the >>event didn't happen because, if it had, he would have heard >>about it, that just doesn't wash. No, there is no reason to >>believe that he would have heard about regardless of who he was, >>who his friends were, or what security clearances he might have >>held. >>I speak from experience here. I watched people get into trouble >>for "talking out of school" and we weren't dealing with any >>earth- shattering secrets. This refrain, that had it happened, I >>would have known, is false and anyone who had dealt with >>classified material and security clearances knows that. ...Carrying coal to Newcastle, I know, but as a career officer (retired) I can concur with Dr. Randle. >Kevin, >Hasn't this situation ever struck you as, uh, well, a bit, shall >we say...incongruous? >I mean, here's the most classified secret in the history of the >world, the greatest moment in human life -- and only a handful >of dedicated men sworn to secrecy know the truth. How then, pray >tell, did the public at large ever learn of it? I believe it likely that even that small handful (given the probable large number of that handful), if they were a remotely smart handful at all, would plainly realize "the most classified secret in the history of the world, the greatest moment in human life..." flatly _couldn't_ be kept. The trick would be to release it in such a way that the aggregate communication is corrupted, or otherwise discredited. In this way they can confuse and obfuscate the issue, maintain their unctuously plausible deniability, and hide in plain sight. >This Band of Brothers doesn't know you, Friedman, Schmitt, >Berliner or any other journalist or ufologist from Joe or Adam, >and practically all you've got to do is show up in person, pen >and paper or videocamera in hand, and they seem only too willing >to spill the beans on the world's best kept (sic) Top Secret to >a complete outsider. Oh come on! Put yourself in the shoes of the witnesses. You'd be busting to finally tell this story if you thought it might finally be safe to do so. And you know what, you paragon of the rigid and inflexible? You might even be prone to exaggeration of that story if you were the type of person that, while generally honest and forthright, was prone to it. This does not invalidate the core of the story that contains all the enigma, does not make the individual witness a liar, and does not prove your case. >I may be exaggerating a little for rhetorical effect, of course, >but I've always been curious as to how you've managed to >reconcile this apparent contradiction in your mind? That contradiction is entirely of your manufacture. It does not exist because you have so smoothly proclaimed it so. And your rhetorical exaggerating is _required_ to have all this shake down into the neat little piles you arbitrarily require. >As for saying this tightly knit band wouldn't talk amongst >itself, but apparently had little compunction against talking to >a perfect stranger... well, we all like to have our cake and eat >it, too. Remaining are the "red headed captains" that strut and threaten about something that "never occurred" Remaining are continuing admissions that 'something' weird occurred at Roswell, and each new confabulation is stupider than the last. Remaining is the increasing heat of the noisy negativist's argument of inexplicable denial when confronted with refutations of these arguments. Remaining... but others could make better lists, have been making them all along, and will continue to make them. >I guess we should be thankful that, when the chips were down and >the press came calling, they really couldn't keep a secret, ...and you wouldn't either, hopefully; some secrets just shouldn't be kept. Given the astonishing abuses of the black ops folks, who aren't working for themselves, remember, appeals to national security, convenient new definitions of patriotism, and 'needed' erosions of our civil rights... et al, take on a whole new aspect. >after all. Makes you wonder whether or not they served alcohol >at all those reunions, doesn't it? Forgetting that that was absolutely uncalled for and remembering that with your lot _everything_ must go in the triple 'M' box (Mad, misinformed, or misinforming), drinking alcohol does not make the aggregate user a liar, does not make that user hallucinate, and does not drive the user crazy. Ironically, it seems the person NEEDING a drink is you. Lehmberg@snowhill.com ~~=D6~~ EXPLORE "Alfred Lehmberg's Alien View" at his HostPros URL. http://www.alienview.net JOHN FORD RESTORATION FUND -- John will be released eventually. He'll need a tax free cash stake to get on his feet. Let's put one together for him; the bigger it is -- the more attention he gets. It could have been you. E-mail for detail. $350.00 pledged -- $200.00 collected! "I cleave the heavens, and soar to the infinite. What others see from afar, I leave far behind me." - Giordano Bruno, scourged by scurrilous skepti-bunkies.
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