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Re: New Year Agenda - Gates

From: Robert Gates <RGates8254@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:38:59 EST
Fwd Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 12:56:40 -0500
Subject: Re: New Year Agenda - Gates

 >Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 14:14:48 -0600
 >Subject: Re: New Year Agenda
 >From: Dennis Stacy <dstacy@texas.net>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>

 >>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
 >>Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 09:15:49 EST
 >>Subject: Re: New Year Agenda
 >>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net


 >>The problem is, if the event took place and it was truly
 >>classified, then those who were not involved would not be
 >>expected to know anything about it. You simply do not discuss
 >>classified material with those who are not cleared to hear it.
 >>Yes, you can talk all you want about senators and politicians
 >>compromising classified material, but we're talking about a
 >>special unit that dealt with highly classified material all the
 >>time. If a specific pilot was not involved and now claims the
 >>event didn't happen because, if it had, he would have heard
 >>about it, that just doesn't wash. No, there is no reason to
 >>believe that he would have heard about regardless of who he was,
 >>who his friends were, or what security clearances he might have

 >>I speak from experience here. I watched people get into trouble
 >>for "talking out of school" and we weren't dealing with any
 >>earth- shattering secrets. This refrain, that had it happened, I
 >>would have known, is false and anyone who had dealt with
 >>classified material and security clearances knows that.




 >Hasn't this situation ever struck you as, uh, well, a bit, shall
 >we say...incongruous?

 >I mean, here's the most classified secret in the history of the
 >world, the greatest moment in human life -- and only a handful
 >of dedicated men sworn to secrecy know the truth. How then, pray
 >tell, did the public at large ever learn of it?

When the CIA started the recon sat program as a highly
compartmentalized program as I recall only 1500 or so people in
the entire US Government were actually cleared on a need-to-know
basis. Since that time that secret was leaked out here and there
but as a whole it was kept secret.

 >This Band of Brothers doesn't know you, Friedman, Schmitt,
 >Berliner or any other journalist or ufologist from Joe or Adam,
 >and practically all you've got to do is show up in person, pen
 >and paper or videocamera in hand, and they seem only too
 >willing to spill the beans on the world's best kept (sic) Top
 >Secret to a complete outsider.

When I was working on my Cold War History research I had people
who talked freely about classified things, and yet others who
would get vague and or change the subject once I drifted into an
area that was still classified or that they felt I was in a
still classified area. Some people had no problem talking with a
researcher long after the fact. Others did. One guy I spoke to
told me about what I found out later was a highly classified
project. He told me in two parts and let me 'make the
connection' between the two parts. Because both parts (stand
alone) were not classified _but_ if you mixed them it was highly
classified. He didn't mix them, so he felt he wasn't disclosing
classifed information.



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