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Re: SDI Wrap-Up Of 2001 With Mr. M.J. Woods - Velez

From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:32:04 -0500
Fwd Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 10:03:42 -0500
Subject: Re: SDI Wrap-Up Of 2001 With Mr. M.J. Woods - Velez


 >Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:38:39 -0600
 >Subject: Re: SDI Wrap-Up Of 2001 With Mr. M.J. Woods
 >From: Lan Fleming <lfleming5@houston.rr.com>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>

 >>Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 02:01:13 -0500
 >>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
 >>Subject: Re: SDI Wrap-Up Of 2001 With Mr. M.J. Woods

 >>There is a black, smoking hole in the middle of _my_ hometown,
 >>(I was born and raised on the island of Manhattan) that doubles
 >>as the largest mass grave in the US. To use it as a 'tool' for
 >>debate, or as it was used by the Disclosure organization is, to
 >>me, beneath contempt and a desecration of the memory of those so
 >>recently deceased. Where has your sensitivity gone? Don't tell
 >>me you cannot see how insensitive it is to use that tragic event
 >>the way that Greer's group (and now you by lauding it) is.

 >How do you know Greer is trying to 'use' the 9/11 disaster as a
 >'tool' for debate? And why do you put quotation marks around the
 >word 'tool' as if you are quoting Greer actually saying that was
 >his intent? Maybe he's just expressing an opinion (albeit a very
 >biased one, IMO).

Hi Lan,

Because it was "Greer's" disclosure Project that published a
'flyer' on this List (and I'm sure many others) stating that: If
more people had supported the disclosure Project's agenda that
the WTC tragedy could have been avoided.

I find that reference/usage of the incident (in which thousands
of innocents lost their lives) in order to raise support for his
(tape selling, three ring circus campaign) agenda to be
disgusting and low.

But hey, maybe you're right and Greer has no idea what is being
broadcast on the web in his name/Disclosure Project. I wouldn't
be at all surprised if he doesn't know. If he hasn't taken the
time to check out his own witnesses, why should we expect him to
know what his underlings, are up to.

You must have been away from the List the last several months or
you'd know exactly what I'm referring to. This isn't the first
time this issue has come up. I may have been the one who raised
it on the List the first time, but many others wrote in in
agreement. Check the UFO UpDates Archive.

 >Greer's perceived linkage of compartmentalized technology that
 >has not been proven to exist to the terrorist attack is, in my
 >opinion, extremely tenuous. But it still makes a heck of a lot
 >more sense than the supposed linkage between the star wars
 >defense against ICBMs and nuts armed with box cutters and
 >plastic explosives in their shoes.

I don't particularly care about what kind of off-the-wall
conspiracy theories Greer and his bunch are espousing lately. I
just objected (vehemently) to his usage of the WTC tragedy in
that context. Let him or anybody else speculate all they want
to. I just wanted to voice my opinion that I thought his choice
of one of this countries most painful losses/tragedies was in
piss-poor taste and an opportunistic act. He/his people, used
the incident as a 'tool' in order to raise support. It was a low
thing to do and just plain inexcusable.

Understand now?

Regards and very happy new year to all,


John Velez






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