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Re: The Measure Of Dick Hall - Velez

From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:29:04 -0500
Fwd Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 10:00:11 -0500
Subject: Re: The Measure Of Dick Hall - Velez


 >From: Ktperehwon@aol.com
 >Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:12:07 EST
 >Subject: The Measure Of Dick Hall
 >To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net

 >Dear Fellow List Fiends -

 >First, an apology to all for having started this virtual
 >shouting match with an mildly intemperate taunt directed at Dick
 >Hall. I can only plead "all too human." The simple truth is
 >that, while I have great respect and admiration for Dick Hall's
 >contributions to ufology and, ironically, agree with him on far
 >more ufological issues than I disagree, I can't stand the man
 >personally. Obviously, he feels the same about me. It's
 >unfortunate personalities have to get in the way of collegial
 >discussion of important substantive issues. I'll do my best to
 >avoid contributing such unneeded and debilitating heat to this
 >list in the future (honest, Errol. I will!).

 >Second, I had hoped to have ended this thread with my last
 >posting, but Dick found it necessary once again to overstep the
 >bounds of good manners and good sense with the following
 >posting:

 >>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99@hotmail.com>
 >>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >>Subject: Re: New Year Agenda
 >>Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 21:26:25 +0000

 >>List,

 >>Just to give you a little more idea about the man, as a result
 >>of my December 27 post here, Karl Pflock has privately
 >>threatened me with a lawsuit via e-mail. Birds of a feather
 >>Pflock together: Karl, CSICOP, Klass, Moseley... skeptibunkers,
 >>and the ethicallly challenged in general.

 >>- Dick

 >So I'm left with no choice but to respond. Rest assured that
 >this is my final word (here) on this matter. Note that, as Errol
 >has reminded me, legal and ethical considerations prevent me
 >from quoting directly from private communications I've received
 >from Dick and Don Berliner, so I am constrained to paraphrase. I
 >assure List members that my paraphrasing accurately represents
 >both the tone and substance of these communications. If Dick and
 >Don think otherwise, they need only post their unexpurgated
 >messages to me on UpDates. Now then...

<snip>

Hello Karl,

 >I leave it to List members to decide for themselves how Dick and
 >I measure up ethically.

<LOL>

No contest Karl. You're not even in the same league as Dick
Hall. I don't know what yardstick you would have us use in order
to compare you to Dick Hall in _any_ way, but it would have to
be an awfully l-o-n-g ruler to to be able to span the distance
between you and him.

In terms of "measuring up" (by any standards) it's Dick Hall.
Hands down. What you really want to know is this: ufologically
speaking... his is longer than yours Karl! <LMAO>;)


Regards,

John Velez, Listerion looking for a long enough ruler.






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