From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 21:45:18 +0000
Fwd Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 09:03:42 -0400
Subject: Re: To X-PPAC & Others Who Don't Get It - Hall


 >From: Alfred Webre
 >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 22:32:48 EDT
 >Subject: Re: To X-PPAC & Others Who Don't Get It
 >To: ufoupdates@home.com (UFO UpDates - Toronto)

 >>From: Richard Hall
 >>To: ufoupdates@home.com
 >>Subject: To X-PPAC & Others Who Don't Get It
 >>Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 21:34:47 +0000

 >>Also, very pertinent to your wish to "embrace" everyone, am I to
 >>assume that you agree with, approve of, and/or condone the truly
 >>wild-eyed extremist political views expressed by Alfred L. Webre
 >>on his web site and in various e-mail exchanges?

 >Richard

 >Ever since I stated on this List I could not remember meeting
 >you (I still do not remember any meeting with you), you seem to
 >be taken with demonizing my name on this list by referring to my
 >political views. I still do not understand what point you are

 >trying to make.

Alfred (and List),

I will insert some direct responses in your text and then append
a statement. The main point I am trying to make is that if List
members took the time to look at your history of far-out
statements (I have repeatedly urged them to do so and to make up
their own minds), they would realize that you are... a pretty
far-out person and not a credible spokesperson for approaching
the Congress or other Government agencies in regard to UFOs.
They should look at www.exopolitics.com and www.ecologynews.com

 >Over the past 30 years I have written 5 books and countless
 >articles and email posts on a variety of subjects ranging from
 >spirituality to earth changes to electromagnetic weapons to the
 >Kennedy assassination to Ufology.

Yes, embracing just about every New Age and/or crackpot notion
yet advanced about "earth changes," psychic forces, mind
control, prophecy... you name it.

 >True, I was an elected Clinton-Gore delegate at the 1996 Texas
 >Democratic convention, and perhaps that worries your obviously
 >conservative sensitivities.

Sorry, but your "obvious" conclusion is false. I am a hardcore
Democrat.

 >On certain issues, like the anti-Extraterrestrial information
 >war, I am also a 'conspiracy theorist' and that obviously
 >disturbs you.

 >My personal views are protected by the First Amendment, and I

 >will continue to express them.

I have never suggested that you should be denied free speech;
only that your ideas are far-out.

 >My personal views are in the protected domain of my personal
 >speech, and are separate from organizations I may be working with.

 >You and I may be of the same generation, but obviously we are
 >dimensions apart in political perception and persuasion. So let
 >us agree to disagree about political issues.

 >I suggest you stop these ad hominem references to my personal
 >views, and start reading and addressing my views on issues of
 >Ufology and the Extraterrestrial presence. I would be glad to
 >debate them with you here.

 >Here is an introduction to my views regarding Exopolitics and
 >the Extraterrestrial presence:

 >Introduction to Exopolitics

 >Is there intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe? The true
 >story unfolding in the Universe may turn our concepts upside
 >down.

 >In reality, Earth appears to be an isolated planet in the midst
 >of a populated Universe. Universe society consists of highly
 >organized and consciously evolving, advanced civilizations.
 >Universe civilizations function within our own interstellar
 >Universe, as well as within other dimensions in the Universe at
 >large. Advanced Universe civilizations exist in other dimensions
 >parallel to our own. They access our own planet, galaxy, and all
 >of interstellar space.

Oh, really? How could you possibly know these things? Is this
revealed "truth?"

 >Life-bearing planets such as Earth are part of a collective
 >Universe whole, operating under Universal law. Think of Earth as
 >part of a Universe commons. Life is implanted and cultivated
 >here under the tutelage of more advanced societies, in

 >accordance with the over-all principles of Universe ecology.

 >Where necessary, Universal law applies restrictive measures to a
 >planet that endangers the collective whole. Universe government
 >can remove a planet from open circulation within Universe
 >society. This fate appears to have happened to Earth in our
 >distant past. Earth has suffered for aeons as an exopolitical
 >outcast among the community of Universe civilizations.

 >Earth is isolated because it is under intentional quarantine by
 >a structured, rational Universe society. There are signs around
 >us of a Universe initiative to reintegrate Earth into
 >interplanetary society. It is possible that Earth may be
 >permitted to rejoin Universe society, under certain conditions,
 >or at a future time certain.

 >The above version of our Universe reality may sound vaguely
 >familiar to you. It is the stock of most science fiction, after
 >all. The notion of a populated Universe may have the ring of
 >truth for you. It may raise a tingle along the back of your
 >neck, a truth too close for comfort. Or you may react to the
 >concept of a populated Universe as flaky and unscientific.

It's not the concept of a populated universe that is flaky and
unscientific, it is your claim to know everything in the
universe that is flaky and unscientific.

 >Your own beliefs about a populated Universe - whatever they
 >might be - fall along a spectrum of public opinion that is
 >frequently measured. A 1996 Gallup poll showed that 72 percent
 >of the U.S. adult population believes there is some form of
 >extraterrestrial life, and 45 percent believes the Earth has
 >been visited by extraterrestrial life. There are indications
 >that public opinion about extraterrestrial visitation is similar
 >in other regions of the planet. The proportion of
 >extraterrestrial-sensitive world youth may be even higher than
 >the adult populations who believe in an extraterrestrial
 >presence.

 >Nearly 100 million adult humans in the United States of America
 >(45 percent of the adult population) believe that
 >extraterrestrial civilization has visited Earth. Approximately
 >100 million U.S. citizens vote in a U.S. Presidential election
 >(the U.S. Federal Election Commission reports that 96,277,634
 >people voted in the 1996 presidential general election)! About
 >100,000,000 persons voted in the disputed 2000 U.S. Presidential
 >election.

 >It is safe to assume that the 100 million US adults who believe
 >in extraterrestrial life could not all be delusional,
 >pre-programmed, or brainwashed. These extraterrestrial-sensitive
 >humans are responding to something they sense is true, deep in
 >their intuition - that extraterrestrials have visited Earth. It
 >is also safe to assume that human intuition is reality-oriented
 >enough to filter out false propaganda from Universe reality. For
 >example, some extraterrestrial "visitations" are actually
 >psychological warfare operations conducted by human
 >military-intelligence agencies.

 >From "Exopolitics: A Decade of Contact"
 >by Alfred Lambremont
 >Webre, JD, MEd

I think you have more or less proved my point with your own
self-quotations, but there is a lot more there, folks, in re:
his ranting anti-government statements and belief in the
"Bildeberger New World Order", George W. Bush's 2000 election as
part of a deliberate "massive covert 'destabilization'
operation" with added vile accusations about Bush that I won't
repeat here (and I am not a Bush fan). In 1974 you predicted
major cataclysms (earthquakes, tidal waves) "in the coming
years." Let's see, it is now 25 years and counting.

With 'UFO friends' like Greer, Webre, and Bassett, who needs
enemies?

  - Dick