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Re: Debunkers' Guidebook - Clark

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:17:22 -0500
Fwd Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:40:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Debunkers' Guidebook - Clark


 >From: Bob Young <YoungBob2@aol.com>
 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:55:52 EDT
 >Subject: Debunkers' Guidebook
 >To: updates@sympatico.ca


 >>From: Greg Sandow <greg@gregsandow.com>
 >>Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:56:08 -0400
 >>Fwd Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:35:42 -0400
 >>Subject: Re: Debunkers' Guidebook - Sandow

 >>>Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:56:00 +0100
 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca>
 >>>From: John Rimmer <jrimmer@magonia.demon.co.uk>
 >>>Subject: Re: Debunkers' Guidebook

 >>Sheaffer said Betty Hill didn't see lights in the sky in the
 >>positions she said she did.)

 >You have this exactlyl backwards, Greg. Shaeffer noted that
 >Betty did claim to see two lights in the sky, just where Jupiter
 >and Saturn were. It's just that she concluded one was a saucer.
 >Another famous example of eyewitness testimony being good enough
 >to turn an exciting saucer tale into just one more boring IFO.

I am delighted to read that Bob Young has now endorsed the value
of eyewitness testimony in cases such as the Hills's
extraordinary experience. Barney and Betty Hill described the
object they saw - I am referring here to consciously recalled
experience, not what they stated under hypnosis - as a large
flattened disc-shaped structure with a band of lights running
along the edge, with a red light on either side. The object
moved in a steplike pattern, tilting vertically as it initiated
each step, spinning all the while. At times Barney watched it
through binoculars.

At one point the object descended into a clearing and hovered
less than a hundred feet in the air and several hundred feet
away. A blue-white flurescent glow shined through a row of
windows along the side. The object had stopped spinning now and
appeared to be the size of a four-engine aircraft.

The Hills stopped their car, and Barney stepped outside. At that
piont they observed the object's passage across the road 100
feet away. It then ceased movement and hovered above a field. As
Barney approached, it resumed its descent toward the ground.
Through his binoculars Barney observed as many as 11 humanlike
figures staring at him through the windows. The figures were
standing in a corridor which encircled the craft at its center.
Suddenly all but one began to scurry about, turning their backs
and appearing to pull levers on the wall. The red lights on
either side of the object moved outward, and Barney saw for the
first time that they were attached to the tips of two pointed
fins sliding out from the sides.

The object moved closer, now filling the entire field of view
through the binoculars. The intense stare of the "leader," as
Barney thought of him, was profoundly unnerving. He could now
see the figures without the glasses. The object was about 75
feet away.

And so on and on. Another famous example of solid eyewitness
testimony to an extraordinary unknown. Or a piloted Saturn or
Jupiter. Take your pick.


Clearer skies,

Jerry Clark





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