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Re: Debunkers' Guidebook - Young

From: Bob Young <YoungBob2@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:55:52 EDT
Fwd Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:29:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Debunkers' Guidebook - Young

 >From: Greg Sandow <greg@gregsandow.com>
 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:56:08 -0400
 >Fwd Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:35:42 -0400
 >Subject: Re: Debunkers' Guidebook - Sandow

 >>Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:56:00 +0100
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca>
 >>From: John Rimmer <jrimmer@magonia.demon.co.uk>
 >>Subject: Re: Debunkers' Guidebook

 >>Would you now like me to post dozens of examples of sceptics who
 >>have looked carefully at eyewitness testimony and found it
 >>invaluable in determining the stimulus responsibe for UFO



What about all the IFOs?

 >We could also make lists of skeptics who declare witnesses
 >didn't see what they reported, in order to make the skeptic's
 >explanation of the sighting work. (Klass, for instance, said
 >Coyne didn't operate the helicopter the way he said he did;

So what? He posited that Coyne operated the helicopter the way
that an experienced pilot would, by not crashing. Coyne just
didn't remember moving a control in the excitement of the
moment, but after having avoided certain death, noticed it had
been moved. The indisputable fact is, he didn't crash and was at
the controls. The ETHers propose that this was because a flying
saucer engaged a Tractor Beam to provent the crash. Now that's a
fine example of the Razor Of Ockem, if I ever was one.


 >Sheaffer said Betty Hill didn't see lights in the sky in the
 >positions she said she did.)

You have this exactlyl backwards, Greg. Shaeffer noted that
Betty did claim to see two lights in the sky, just where Jupiter
and Saturn were. It's just that she concluded one was a saucer.
Another famous example of eyewitness testimony being good enough
to turn an exciting saucer tale into just one more boring IFO.

Clear skies,

Bob Young


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