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Re: Bigelow/NIDS Purchase Of Records - Kaeser

From: Steven Kaeser <Steve@konsulting.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:25:31 -0500
Fwd Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:41:46 +0000
Subject: Re: Bigelow/NIDS Purchase Of Records - Kaeser

Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:39:47 -0500
To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca>
From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
Subject: Re: Bigelow/NIDS Purchase Of Records


 >The first time I brought this subject to the attention of the
 >List and the UFO community at large I had hopes that the end
 >result would be 'some kind' of new awareness about, and
 >attention to, the rights of abductees as witnesses. Strip away
 >the label "abductee" and what you have is a person. In America
 >"people" have certain rights of protection that are guaranteed
 >by the Constitution and insured by law. In the case of the sale
 >of client files by John Carpenter to Robert Bigelow I raised a
 >red flag and questioned the propriety and even the legality of
 >the transfer of such personal information without the knowledge
 >or consent of the client. At that time I told every body that
 >the rabbit hole went much deeper than just the one transaction
 >involving John Carpenter.


A number of us were involved in this conversation several months
ago, and I think that many people were listening. I'm just not
sure that anyone is willing (or able) to confront the issues
involved. I, also, believe that the rights of abductees need to
be protected, but the accepted rules may be different for
research subjects than they are for clients seeking help from a
medical professional.

I'm still hoping that someone actually takes Carpenter to task
in a legal sense for his actions, so that the air can be cleared
one way or the other. I would also hope that MUFON would take a
stand on this issue, rather than simply point to an old (1994)
"agreement" that was in effect when John sold his information.

I would agree that this is an ongoing problem that will rear its
ugly head again, but I don't see much movement toward a
resolution and very little pressure from the abductees to deal
with it.