From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:14:42 -0400 (EDT)
Fwd Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:28:55 -0400
Subject: Re: The Current Mrs. Carpenter Speaks Out -


 >Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:54:03 -0400
 >From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
 >Subject: Re: The Current Mrs. Carpenter Speaks Out
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca>

 >>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:51:32 -0400 (EDT)
 >>From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com>
 >>Subject: The Current Mrs. Carpenter Speaks Out
 >>To: updates@sympatico.ca

 >Hi All,

 >The 'docca' tells us:

<snip>

 >You have to be in a very small minority of people who would
 >describe that display of obvious pain, anger, and angst as

To be determined.

 >"well said". Reading it made me feel sorry for her. (Empathetic)
 >towards her. She's in a lot of obvious pain (just like the
 >abductees whose files John sold!) over this whole sad business.
 >It may have good for her to 'get it all out' for therapeutic
 >reasons but her display of anger and the implied threats to
 >sue anyone and everyone connected to this are far from anything
 >that could be remotely considered as "well said".

 >Only _you_ would/could consider such an angry rant as "well
 >said". Does the fact that _you_ are presenting her to the List
 >(involving her) mean that _you_ contacted her for the purpose of
 >eliciting this very sad set of statements from her?

It does not. I am carrying her complaint to the List but did not
solicit or elicit same. As can be discerned by reading it, this
post went to MUFON. It came here by way of my interest in this
case. Nothing more. Imbedded therein, is an advise which should
be considered.

 >Do you somehow feel that this has all been just a "win/lose"
 >debate situation on the List? How sad that you should view such
 >an important issue that affects so many of your fellow
abductees >as a personal 'win/lose' situation on an e-mail list.
And to go >out of your way to involve Mrs. Carpenter (who is so
obviously >upset about all this already) to vent her spleen on
the List is >by _far_ the worst thing that you have done so far
on this >thread

<snip>

Since this is something which is assumed by at least one of the
members of this List, and since it is false, I shall conclude
that it is not by far the worst thing I've done on this List.

As for being a win/lose? Wrong again. It is a right/wrong
situation which I have described previously.

 >I sincerely hope that we've seem you bottom out here. I'd hate
 >to think that you are capable of sinking lower than this simply
 >to assuage your own wounded ego.

 >You complain of "name calling" and "paranoia". Why is it that
 >you are the _only_ one engaging in it?

I am the only one identifying an already extant scenario, I am
not creating it.

<snip>

 >The "Hateful, paranoid, King of the Abductees" (sound familiar
 >dere Jimbo?)

Yes.

Jim Mortellaro