From: Ann Mulvey <annmulvey@compuserve.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:00:45 -0400
Fwd Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:56:00 -0400
Subject: UpDate: Re: John Carpenter's Australian Video - Mulvey


 >Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:34:01 -0500
 >From: Gary Hart <geehart@frontiernet.net>
 >Subject: John Carpenter's Australian Video
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca


 >List,

 >This communication came to me from a colleague in Australia.

 >Gary

________________________________

 >Greetings Australian Researchers,

 >This message is just going out to the researchers in Australia,
 >as it concerns just them at present. Though other "abductees and
 >experiencers" around the world should be warned and aware that
 >this can happen to them.

 >I've received several replies stating that John Carpenter did
 >not have the permission of those he interviewed for his
 >"research video" to make this video commercially available. This
 >video, "Encounters in Australia" is being sold at UFO
 >conferences in USA and through several UFO Magazines both in USA
 >and England.

 >In fact, I got my copy from a video contact who attended a big
 >UFO conference in USA a couple of years ago and bought it from
 >Carpenter's bookstall. Perhaps John C. figured that no one way
 >"down here" in Australia would ever find out. John Carpenter
 >does not do his work on the Internet, so his ignorance of how
 >fast news can travel these days is understandable but not
 >excusable.

 >Without violating requests for anonymity, here's how a
 >well-repected person in publishing here put it:

 >_________

 >Dear Mike,

 >When John Carpenter conducted those interviews, it is clear that
 >he did not seek permission from them to sell those interviews.

 >I know that several on that list were outraged to learn that a
 >supposedly professional, private interview was being sold
 >through UFO magazines on video format, with no permission or
 >royalty being granted.

 >Shame on John Carpenter for his actions I say!

 >regards
 >XXXXXXX
 >________________________________


 >So it would appear that Mr. Carpenter has much to answer for
 >these days. Of course, progress on this issue is best served by
 >putting enforceable policies into place that would prevent such
 >abuse of "patient's confidentiality" in the future, not by going
 >after the person responsible like some kind of lynch mob "witch
 >hunt".

 >Though I must agree with positions expressed by many researchers
 >recently on this Internet discussion, that when a well known
 >and high profile "celebrity" researcher can get away with
 >selling 140 abductee files at $100. each (with audio tapes)
 >and pocket $14,000 without due consideration for the consequences
 >to his "patients" or his suffering reputation, then it's

 >TIME TO CLEAN UP THIS HOUSE!!!!

 >and let the chips fall where they may...

 >You know the old but ever so true saying:

 >"When good people do nothing...evil flourishes!"

 >------------------------------------------------------

 >We can learn from each other's mistakes,
 >but only if we all examine exactly what went wrong!<

Hi Gary,

Sorry - I can't walk away from this one.....

If your Australian colleague is so outraged by this alleged
confidentiality violation of John Carpenter's, and is willing to
make such serious accusation, why won't he allow you to type his
name?? Why can't he come out publically and say that he has
signed documents from "X" numbers of verified individuals who
claim that this has happened AND that these individiuals have
filed formal complaints against John Carpenter?

Please verify and get permission from these _alleged_
individuals. Yes, it "appears" Mr. Carpenter has much to answer
for - but you may have an equal amount should this be some
screwed up rumor with no validity behind it.

So, if you've already checked your facts, get this person to
post to this group himself using his real name. This is a very
serious charge and "XXXXX" won't cut it. You know that I have
personally told you here and in emails, several times over the
past couple of weeks that receiving *anonymous* anything is
bogus. How on earth you could post this amazes me.

If you are indeed making this a legal case, I strongly suggest
that you seek your attorney's advice before posting any more
charges against Carpenter. If your attorney gave you the high
sign to do that - it's time for another attorney. This kind of
behavior does nothing to help abductees, ufology, MUFON or
anybody else.

Lastly, I called State Committee of Social Workers at
573-751-0885 and inquired about Mr. Carpenter. Not _one_
complaint has been filed against him. I sure don't understand
that given what you've told us about the people that you've
spoken to about their issues with the man.

This is like loud screeching background noise to the real issue
of getting those 120 people notified. We _know_ they don't know
their files were sold and need to learn that truth!

Ann