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UFO Report By Ex-RAF Radar Personnel

From: Dave Ledger <dledger@cableinet.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 23:22:32 +0100
Fwd Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:04:47 -0400
Subject: UFO Report By Ex-RAF Radar Personnel

Strange UFO Captured On RAF Radar In North Of Scotland

Date: Winter 1964-1965.
Location: RAF Saxa Vord, Shetland Isles, Scotland.
Source: Retired RAF personnel. Name witheld at Witnesses Request.
Report and Witness Interview by: Dave Ledger

Before I proceed to report on this significant case, I would
personally like to thank the witness involved, for showing his
willingness and courage in coming forward after 35 years to
discuss and log this extraordinary case report with UFO
Scotland. His willingness to discuss the sighting and the
relevant details associated, is to be commended and we hope that
it may set an example for other ex-servicemen to follow.


During the Month of May 1999, I was lucky enough to have the
opportunity of speaking with (for the record) an ex RAF member
who was once based at the Early Warning Radar tracking station
at RAF Saxa Vord in the extreme North of Scotland. This meeting
had been set up by my father who is also ex RAF (retired) and
had happened to meet my source via social circles who in turn,
agreed to speak with me so that I may document the event.

During the winter of 1964-1965 at the location of Scotland's
northern most Early Warning radar tracking station, RAF Saxa
Vord in the Shetland Isles, a serious and relatively unknown
incident took place which was witnessed by ground Radar
personnel who were on duty at the time. The case was also
documented and recorded by the Royal Air Force themselves.

My source reports: Radar Operators observed a stationary return
on the early warning radar which gained their interest and
curiosity. The object was observed sitting motionless at a
height of approximately 20,000 feet. (I asked him how the height
of the return was established and he informed me that it was
obtained by using the radar's height finder on the system.)

The return was a very strong signal which showed up clearly on
the radar as a "real structured object", but what caused
immediate concern was the fact that this particular object could
not be readily identified by the personnel on duty.

Seeing as this was during the "cold war", the personnel had to
assume that this anomalous radar return was an incoming hostile
as it was now slowly approaching toward the North coast of
Scotland from a North Easterly direction. There was no reply
from the IFF (which was to inform them if the incoming was
friend or foe) so the unknown was treated by the on duty
personnel as if it were a hostile, possibly Russian.

For an unspecified amount of time, the unknown object slowly
continued to approach toward the Scottish coast, a few minutes
followed then a QRA alert was sent to RAF Leuchars in Fife, who
in turn, scrambled 2 English Electric Lightnings (which were the
interceptor aircraft at that time) to intercept and identify the
incoming threat. RAF Leuchars was the nearest station at this
time to deal with such a request.

NOTE: I did ask my source the initial range and distance from
the coast, that the radar detected the anomaly from, but he
could not answer me due to the fact that it may be giving away
confidential and secret information, which we do respect here at
UFO Scotland. Reporting is one thing but spilling official
secrets is not our aim. It has to be said that this range
information will also be well outdated by now anyway.

The two Lightnings were vectored, via ground controllers,
towards the incoming bogey but as they approached the locale of
the unknown object, my source hinted that the object seemed to
become aware of this fact and what happened next suprised them
all. The object just proceeded to go vertical,rapidly, directly
up and up until it was lost on the height finder on the radar

I then asked the witness "at what height the Height finder could
lose track" and he reported that it was about 100,000 feet.

Significant point: It is a well known fact that no aircraft on
this planet at that time or during present day, had or have the
capabilities of performing these types of manouveres captured on
Radar or could even climb to that altitude period.

The witness then told me that he believed that the anomaly was
definately exhibiting intelligent control and was in his honest
opinion "Not one of ours!"  At one point, when the unknown was
witnessed by the radar operators to go vertical instantaneously,
the two operators just looked at eachother, shook their heads
and said "NO".

It was further established during the interview that Ground
Radar returns were out of the question seeing as this incident
took place over the North Sea and not over land.

The case was apparently logged through the official channels and
apparently, the scrambled Lightnings got nowhere near their

The whole incident still remains unexplained to date and the
witness informed me that this particular incident was the only
unexplained event that he had ever witnessed during his career
and that he did feel that it should be logged as an important
sighting pertaining to ufo research and our search for the "REAL

Technical details:

The Radar equipment that the anomaly was recorded and tracked on
was known as a "Type 84" Radar System and a "Type 13" height

This particular case has never been heard of publicly, at least
to my knowledge, although I personally feel that it should be
logged as a very significant report, from a very credible
source, which supports the case that we do indeed have
unidentified objects penetrating our air defenses on a regular
basis and more importantly:  The Authorities do know about it
but they dont tell!

Report by Dave Ledger for UFO Scotland.

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