From: Skye Turell <turel33@west.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:46:56 -0800
Fwd Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 23:21:54 -0500
Subject: Re: Science Fiction Writers

> From: William White <bwhite@frognet.net>
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Science Fiction Writers
> To: updates@globalserve.net (UFO UpDates - Toronto)
> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:59:45 -0500 (EST)

> > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:14:27 -0800
> > From: Skye Turell <turel33@west.net>
> > To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> > Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Science Fiction Writers

> > Telepathic communications and clairvoyance don't involve EM
> > apparently. SRI did experiments putting sender/receivers or
> > remote viewers into faraday cages and it didn't effect the
> > positive outcome of the experiments.

> I'm not familiar with SRI ... can you give me a little bit more
> information on this?  In particular keep in mind that faraday
> cages have to be constructed *very* carefully if you want to
> block out everything.

> I'm also assuming we're talking about experiments in which the
> sender does not in any way select the information to be sent.

> > Interestingly, many of the psi researchers ARE physicists. They
> > don't know how to explain psi, but they have demonstrated it's
> > validity beyond a shadow of a doubt. I especially recommend Dean
> > Radin's book "The Conscious Universe."

> I don't accept the validity of *anything* beyond a "shadow" of a
> doubt.  But I will say that although some of the initial Psi
> experiments had some huge statistical problems, more recent ones
> do seem to show the phenomenon is valid.

For more information about the project at SRI, and the entire
history of the military remote viewing program, I'd suggest you
read Jim Schnabel's book, "Remote Viewers."  It's in paperback at
major booksellers.  The faraday cages were already in place at
Los Alamos and at SRI's physics lab, although they were
constructed for other purposes... you'll have to read the details
to satisfy your quest for detailed knowledge on this.  But these
weren't just hastily constructed by the psi researchers.

Also you may want to visit the extraordinary website:

http://www.pardigm-sys.com/firedocs

This site has links to the major research labs and a HUGE library
of information about psi testing.  There is also a mailing list
about remote viewing which is attended by Russell Targ (formerly
of SRI) as well as many of the ex-military remote viewers.  You
will get a very educated picture of this field...far more
accurate than the kind of drama featured on Art Bell, for
example.

Jeff Rense has also interviewed many of the psi researchers:
Spottiswoode, Radin, and May, as well as some of the military
viewers.  You can listen to those shows on Audionet by hopping a
link from his site:

http://www.sightings.com

The existence of psi has been proven, but not explained.  "Psi"
in this case referring to perceptions aside from the normal five,
perceptions transending time and space considerations.  What that
really means is still up for grabs.  But there are reproducible
effects that are regularly duplicated in labs around the world.
Even CSICOP has been unable to find fault with the methodology.
(Not that they would admit that there's any VALIDITY.)

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Skye Turell <turel33@west.net>
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