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Re: Solved abduction cases?

From: jared@valuserve.com (Andromeda.net- Anderson, Jared)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:29:37 -0700
Fwd Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 23:16:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Solved abduction cases?

> From: James Easton <pulsar@compuserve.com>
> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 20:54:11 -0400
> Fwd Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:49:44 -0400
> Subject: Re: Solved abduction cases?

> Regarding...

> >Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 01:22:34 -0500
> >From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
> >Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Solved abduction cases?

> John wrote:

> >Henny writes,

> >>Not only is the ET hypothesis taken seriously outside the USA,
> >>government officials of several countries, such as Chile,
> >>Belgium, Mexico and Russia, have openly stated that their air
> >>space has been violated by craft that do not originate on this
> >>earth.

> >Now this is one piece of reality that you'll never see debated!

As far as I know the Mexican Government has not made any official
statements regarding the ET hypothesis. Did I miss something?

> John,
> The reality is, if I may paraphrase, that, with rare exceptions, there
> is no indication the ET hypothesis is taken seriously by the vast
> majority of government officials, either within the USA or elsewhere.

> >Here we have "official" government releases of information, some of
> >it formidable as in the case of the Belgium government, (military,
> >radar data, reports from credible sources on the ground -Gendarme-
> >etc.) and yet it is still not taken as an "official announcement"
> >that something 'out of the ordinary,'...'possibly not of this earth'
> >is -hoopty doin it- in our skies.

> The Belgium reference is a good example of the questionable data which
> some government officials base their beliefs on. It could be pointed
> out that rather than an ET origin, the reports of triangular UFOs
> which proliferated from December 1989, might have a connection with
> the unidentified isosceles-triangle shaped aircraft which recognition
> expert Chris Gibson witnessed flying with a KC-135 Stratotanker and
> two F-111s only three months previous.

The open representation of the events that occurred in Belgium as
announced by the BAF were in response to a specific incident in
which 2 BAF F-16's tracked an unknown triangular object which was
simultaneously monitored by ground radar that achieved a 1000 mph
velocity traveling several miles from a standstill to 200+ feet
decent in less than one second. This event was confirmed visually
by the fighter pilots and by ground radar. The public disclosure
of the event by the BAF would probably never have occurred if the
circumstances were not as odd as they were. The BAF made
absolutely no reference to an ET hypothesis but made assertions
that seem to substantiate UFO reality. ROC member Chris Gibson's
sighting of the black triangle under escort was made from an oil
tanker in the North Sea. There is no evidence that I'm aware of
to connect Gibson's sighting with the Belgian activity other than
that they occurred in successive years.

> Or that the F-16 radar data from the Belgium flap was _officially_
> explained by the Belgian Air force as ground clutter and no pilot ever
> witnessed an actual object.

This official explanation appears to have been superceded as of
several months ago as the Belgian media reported that it had
solved the 1990 OVNI mystery blaming the NASA Loflyte plane for
initiating unauthorized testing in Belgian airspace. NASA
categorically denied the allegation.

> >About a year ago I put this same piece of information on the
> >table in another thread Henny, the silence was deafening. It must
> >be a hard set of facts to rationalize/debunk I guess!

> The facts are that a few such individuals believe the ET hypothesis
> to be true. No government which, as an entity, refutes the question
> of ET visitations, and last I heard that was all of them, seems
> currently troubled by any suggestion to the contrary.

> Or would appear to give the matter more than a passing thought.

As far as I know no government has said anything about an ET
hypothesis for UFOs but the evidence that has surfaced over the
years quite strongly suggests that many governments harbor a
great deal of concern about some UFO's despite what they say
officially. It seems like a waste of time to attempt to influence
governments to develop theories regarding the nature of something
which they offically deny the existance of.


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