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Re: Abduction Oct 4 1997

From: Peregrine Mendoza <101653.2205@compuserve.com> [Peter Brookesmith]
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 00:03:12 -0500
Fwd Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 01:42:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Abduction Oct 4 1997

The Duke of Mendoza presents his compliments with cross-eyed
amazement and attempts to address:

>From: wlmss@peg.apc.org [Lawrie Williams]
>Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:08:27 +1000 (GMT+1000)
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: Re: Abduction Oct 4 1997

I think I'll keep this to the necessary minimum.
The Williams quotes me and responds thus:

>> The Duke infers nothing of the kind. The Duke observed with a
>> micture sorry (but look it up!) mixture of despair and disgust
>> that you
>> blithely predicted to a 16-year-old girl that she would be
>> impregnated by aliens....

>Mistake #1.         I did not say anything like this,
>blithely or otherwise. This is clearly wooly thinking.

>Or is it that cheap political debating trick, to attribute
>something false to someone, then wax sarcastic about something
>they never said?

Okay, sweet pea, this is what you said, back on 12 October:

>I told D that she could reassure her friend she would come to no
>harm. I was told J [sic] is not afraid, just very curious. Neither
>girl would dream of trying to tell their parents about this.

>I told her in my opinion the visitation was by an actual craft
>with humanoids, because this is consistent with similar incidents
>taking place around the world. I said the experience would have
>slipped into a dream, like the part about running through the

>I told D that K could expect a phantom pregnancy, but that it would
>be ended with another visitation. I said this could be three months,
>but that perhaps someone on the Internet could give me a more likely
>"term". (K is unlikely to be pregnant by any human, so it looks like
>a classic potential "maiden birth", what is mistakenly known as
>"virgin birth" since ancient times - a mistranslation.)

>I told her that it could be possible that the purpose of all this
>was to make hybrids, half like us and half like them.

Now, so far as I can tell, and my inability to perceive otherwise
may be the product of certain genetic constraints (for details
apply to the Williams), the only difference between what I said
and what you said is this: you told K's friend D all this merry
stuff, not K herself. And do you think D will not tell K? Can you
guarantee it? Do I indulge in woolly thoughts and cheap debating
tricks or do I just see the practical consequences of your genius
for tunnel vision? (Repeat twice for the other "objections" that
the Williams numbers.)

Naturally I'm curious to know how you know it's unlikely that K
will be made pregnant by any human, too. You hang out with Ed
Dames and Thomas Rice, or what?

Suppose she does get pregnant. Then what? A possible choice of

"It's okay ma, it's just them aliens. Be gone in three months."
"Holy shit, there's a monster inside me!"
"Oh, god, help, help, help, no one will believe anything I say."

But most reactions of 16-year-olds in this situation rarely make
it into the realm of words. I wonder why. Do you? With your
expertise in genetics I imagine you will have a ready response.

I think several things about the loopy ideas you offer as to my
contribution to the suicide rate among abductees. Of those who've
met me and subscribe to this list I can tell from their recent
posts that my company and ruthless skepticism has driven them to
catatonic despair and a permanent state of existential nihilism.
As they will doubtless confirm. Of course abductees have no one
to blame but the wickedness and cruelty of skeptics and debunkers
for their reactions to their experiences. Heavens, I'm surprised
those of us who raise a few questions in the face of your wisdom
haven't all been arrested for murder. And wasting list time with
intent, natch.

Damn hell the Williams can't even spell my name. And worse, the
Lady Elfride scorned. This is *very* thin ice.

Still, it'll be fun seeing how this character manages to finagle
Artemis into the history of Gnosticism and the dreaded mutes.
Perhaps Bishop Irenaeus was really a cow? Do we get the Secret
Sayings of Snippy, too? Did Linda Mouldy Cowe really leap fully
armed from a red earthenware jar at Nag Hammadi in 1945, as so
many of us have so long suspected? Truly, this will be a feast
for scholars.

Just so there's no misunderstanding. The last time someone as
obtuse as the Williams wound everyone up on this List, a gent
from Sacramento I believe it was, of the Pee Aitch Dee class, he
got the ol' heave ho in fairly short order. I objected to that,
and I would object again were it to be suggested or enacted in
this case.

Someone has to keep an eye on the dangerous and deranged, and it
may as well be us. That's an opinion not an assumption, by the
way, that bit about dangerous and deranged. I do assume barking
mad, and deaf to reason, however.

Yours &c
Pegasus D. Mistletoe
Ghastly Mutation

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