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{83} part 2 - United Kingdom UFO Network

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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:39:05 +0000
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World News

[W 1]******

Source: Daily Mail newspaper
Date: Thursday 9th October 1997

It is 280 millon miles across and 100 million times brighter than
the sun. So why can't we see the biggest baby in space?

by Julian Champkin

This is big - monstrously big. It is bursting with energy. And,
above all, it is bright. Scientists have found what they say is the
biggest and brightest star in the universe.

They have called it the pistol star - after the dust-cloud of that
shape which surrounds it. One hundred million times as bright as our
sun, it is of a sort technically known, reasonably enough, as a
super giant. It is about as big as a star can be - and, possibly,
bigger. Which makes it a bit of a mystery. And, relatively speaking,
as such things go in space, it is not very far away.

The universe is made up of millions of galaxies, each one a disc or
spiral shape, each composed in its turn of millions of stars. Our
own sun is a fairly insignificant star two-thirds of the way out
towards the rim of our galaxy - at its unfashionable end, as it says
in The Hitch-Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy. The Pistol star, by
contrast, is not insignificant at all - and it has what you can only
call a fashionable address.

It lies almost at the centre of our galaxy, by the spot where all
the radiating spirals of stars begin. Its size and its strange
position may be connected.

Take its size first. Pistol is 200 times the mass of our sun. That
used to be thought impossible. Our sun is a mere 864,000 miles
across; Pistol is rather bigger. Its diameter is somewhere between
186 and 280 million. If it were placed at the centre of our solar
system, it would stretch out passed the orbits of Mercury and Venus;
it would engulf the Earth; it would reach the orbit of Mars.

An object that big, filled with incandescent helium, sends out a lot
of light. It is 4,000 million miles from us, so its light takes
25,000 years to reach us - but in intergalactic terms  that is not
really so far away. Our galaxy is 60 light years across, and we can
see many, possibly most, of its stars.

The Milky Way - the white band of stars that arches across the night
sky - is made up of hundreds of them. They are the stars of our
saucer shaped galaxy, seen edge-on from our position somewhere within
its rim.

So if Pistol is that bright, and that close, you might think that
you would be able to see it somewhere in the Milky Way in the
constellation of Sagittarius. Unfortunately, there is something in
the way.

The dust and gas of the Pistol nebula blocks off almost all the
light that comes from the very centre of the galaxy. "Only one photon
of light in every million million that it sends out reaches us," says
Dr Robin Catchpole, of the Royal Greenwich Observatory.

Dr Catchpole did see light from the star, back in 1986, using a
telescope in South Africa. "But we could not tell if it came from
one big star, or from a cluster of smaller stars close together," he
says. It took the giant Hubble space telescope, orbiting 400 miles
above the Earth, to show that Pistol was, actually, a single giant.

Even then, Hubble had to study light from the infra-red part of the
spectrum, invisible to our eyes - and the apparatus to do that was
only installed on it recently, in a space-walk by NASA scientists
who gave the telescope its three yearly service in orbit. But even
the Hubble telescope cannot penetrate the murk that blocks out the
visible light from our our new giant star. We still do not know what
colour this star would be beneath the curtain of dust that is hiding

Despite its size, it is young. It was born perhaps a million years
ago, three million at the outside. That compares with an age of
4,5000 million years for our own solar system. Even the Earth was in
being 4,000 million years ago, before this giant baby began. So it
has grown quickly, monstrously fast, in fact. It is a big but sickly
baby, outgrowing its own strength.

"This big star is burning its candle at both ends," says Mark Morris
of the University of California in Los Angeles, one of the
co-investigators of the star. "It is so luminous that it is
consuming its fuel at an outrageous rate." In six seconds, this star
gives out as much energy as our sun does in a year. Despite its size,
it simply cannot stand the pace.

"It will have a short life and an abrupt end," say its discoverers.
"Big stars go through their cycle from birth to death much faster.
This one is burning energy at such a rate, that it will explode
quite soon," says Dr Catchpole.

By 'quite soon' he means in three million years or less, so  do not
hold your breath. But our sun, in contrast, has five billion years
of life left in it.

When Pistol goes, it will be in a very big bang. There will be a
huge explosion - visible across the galaxy. The last massive
suppernova took place in AD 1054, a few years before the Battle of
Hastings; and was recorded, among others, by the scribes in ancient
China, as well as by Indian astronomers.

Pistol is so big that it is near, or possibly beyond, the limit of
what astronomers thought possible. "If a star is too bright, it
blows itself apart," says Dr Catchpole. "The pressure of all the
radiation inside it overcomes the gravity that is the only thing
holding the star together." That limit of size and brightness is
called the Eddington Limit, after a British astronomer of the

A star around 100 times the mass of our Sun is approaching the
Eddington Limit; and, as we have seen, the Pistol star is either
very close to the limit, or actually beyond it. If that turns out to
be the case, the astronomers will have to re-think the mathematics of
what keeps stars together.

"The centre of the galaxy is a strange place," says Dr Catchpole.
"There is a great bulge of stars a little distance out, which are
all quite old. Astronomers have been debating whether young stars can
get born in the very centre, or whether it is a dead, cold region."

The Pistol star seems to settle that question: it is young,
thrusting, positively bursting with youthful energy. It shows that
the centre of the galaxy is a place where stars get born.

Still, it is quite a monstrous birth. "It is perhaps no accident
that this extreme-mass star is found near the centre of the galaxy,"
says Mark Morris. "Star formation processes there may favour stars
much more massive than our our modest sun."

But modesty is often a virtue. Pistol's speed of growth has limited
it. Can it have planets around it, and life?

"No chance," says Dr Catchpole. "A planet trying to form around this
star would have been swamped. This one is just too violent. The dust
that comes together to form planets would have been swallowed up."

Similarly, its pace of existence would have given no time for life
to evolve on any circling planet that did survive.

"On Earth, our gentle sun has given us 4,000 million years for us to
evolve from amoeba. The Pistol star is just doing everything too
fast," says Dr Catchpole. Other galaxies also have centres; and in
them, too, similar frenetic giants may be forming and dying.

But ET, if he exists anywhere, will be avoiding these overblown
speed-merchants. Life elsewhere will have formed around a much more
considerate star - something much more like our own.

Our sun may not be the biggest, but lets not knock it. After all, it
suits us rather well. Big may be more interesting for the
astronomers, but for our life forms, at least, middle-sized and
longer-lived is best.

[W 2]******

Source: Teletext Strange But True
Date: Saturday 11th October 1997


Zombies, corpses brought back to life in Haiti by black magic, are
probably (uk.ufo.nw says: "probably!!!") individuals with
psychiatric disorders.

Up to 1,000 new zombies are said to be created each year, and are
frequently recognised by the local population.

The study was carried out by Professor Roland Littlewood, from
University College, London.

[W 3]******

Source: Teletext World News
Date: Saturday 11th October 1997


Antarctic: The ozone hole over the South Pole now covers nearly 8.5
square miles.

[W 4]******

Source: Daily Mail newspaper
Date: 11th October 1997

Galileo finds life, by Jupitor

Life could exist on one of the moons of Jupitor, say scientists.

They have discovered evidence that Europa may have all the three
ingredients essential to life.

Europa, about a quarter the size of Earth and the fourth-largest of
Jupitors 12 moons, is known to have two - water and an energy

Scientists say they have discovered the third - organic compounds -
on two of Jupitors other moons. That means the molecules are also
likely to exist on Europa.

There is speculation that there could be a warm organic 'soup' below
Europa's ice-cap, ideal for the evolution of life.

The findings, reported in the journal Science yesterday, are based
on data from Nasa's Galileo space probe.

Nasa scientist Dale Cruikshank said the discovery would intensify
work on Europa, which was already 'of very special interest'.

[W 5]******

Source: Sunday Telegraph newspaper
Date: Sunday 19th October 1997

Hollywood admits to Bigfoot hoax

By Mike Lewis and Tim Reid

A PIECE of film, which for 30 years has been regarded as the most
compelling evidence for the existence of Bigfoot, the North American
"abominable snowman", is a hoax, according to new claims.

John Chambers, the man behind the Planet of the Apes films and the
elder statesman of Hollywood's "monster-makers", has been named by a
group of Hollywood make-up artists as the person who faked Bigfoot.

In an interview with Scott Essman, an American journalist, the
veteran Hollywood director John Landis revealed "a make-up secret
only six people know". Mr Landis said: "That famous piece of film of
Bigfoot walking in the woods that was touted as the real thing was
just a suit made by John Chambers." He said he learned the
information while working alongside Mr Chambers on Beneath the Planet
of the Apes in 1970.

The claims contradict the findings of a forthcoming study by the
North American Science Institute that the creature is real. It has
analysed the footage and detected the movement of skin over muscles
which could not be duplicated by the wearing of an artificial

But Howard Berger, of Hollywood's KNB Effects Group, said it was
common knowledge within the film industry that Mr Chambers was
responsible for a hoax that turned Bigfoot into a worldwide cult.

Mike McCracken Jr, a make-up artist and associate of Mr Chambers,
said: "I'd say with absolute certainty that John was responsible. A
gorilla-suit expert, Bob Burns, said that the alleged Bigfoot shows
evidence of a water bag in the stomach area - a trick used to make a
gorilla suit move like real flesh. This liquid-stomach technique was
developed by Charlie Germora, with whom Chambers worked at

Mr Chambers, 75, who won an Academy award for his ground-breaking ape
masks in the Planet of the Apes feature film in 1968, is now in frail
health and lives in seclusion in a Los Angeles nursing home. He has
refused to confirm or deny the reports, yet experts say that only he
possessed the know-how to create a suit which several examining
experts have termed a masterpiece.

Tomorrow is the 30th anniversary of the day the Bigfoot hunters
Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin emerged from the wilds of northern
California with the celebrated film, perhaps the only footage of
unexplained phenomena which has stood up to rigorous scientific
examination. Mr Patterson died in 1972 convinced that he had filmed a
real Bigfoot.

But Howard Berger told a Bigfoot investigator, Mark Chorvinsky: "It
was like a gag to be played on the guy who shot it. The guy never
knew it was a hoax his friends played on him."

Mr Chorvinsky, editor of Strange magazine, who studied the
background of the Patterson film for a year, said Mr Chambers created
monster suits for the Lost in Space television series of the
mid-1960s which look very similar to the creature in Patterson's

Mr Chambers was also known to have participated in another Bigfoot
hoax: the Burbank Bigfoot - a 7ft 4in carcass painstakingly built
over a plaster cast of the actor Richard Kiel, best known as Jaws in
the James Bond films.

The subject of the Patterson film - a large, hairy, upright walking
creature with wobbling breasts - is seen walking left to right,
turning briefly to glare in the direction of the cameraman before
disappearing into the trees, "for all the world like a classic
Charlie Chaplin fadeout", according to one critic. Another observer
described the creature in the film as a "cross between a gorilla and
Mae West".

The film was hailed as proof of Bigfoot's existence by British and
Russian scientists and expeditions were organised to try to capture
the creature. The episode turned Bigfoot into the world's favourite
monster and even spawned the popular Harry and the Henderson's
television comedy series.

But Mr Chorvinsky believes that the scientists have followed a false
trail. "Every make-up artist I have spoken to believes it is a guy
in a fur suit," he said.

Bigfoot enthusiasts disagree. Chris Murphy, a Bigfoot researcher,
said: "Very high computer enhancements of the film show conclusively
that, whatever it was, it was not wearing a suit. The skin on the
creature ripples as it walks."

[W 6]******

Source: Sightings On The Radio
Video screen captures can be seen at:

Mexico City UFO Video

Here are four video screen 'captures' from the sensational Mexico
City UFO video which is currently under extensive computer analysis
by Brit and Lee Elders, Jim Dilletoso at Village Labs, and a major
University in Mexico. The video was taken on August 6,1997 and was
delivered anonymously to legendary Mexican UFO journalist/researcher
Jaime Maussan who then sent it to Brit and Lee Elders in the U.S.
The Elders and Jim Dilettoso were Jeff's guests on Sightings On the
Radio on October 5. The Elders termed the footage the most
spectacular and important they have ever seen and that, if real, it
could constitute a veritable "Rosetta Stone" in the history of UFO
research, unlocking the reality of the phenomenon to the general
public. Jim Dilettoso went into considerable detail explaining the
highly sophisticated computer technology being used to evaluate the
tape. The October 5 program can be heard on RealAudio Archives
through the Sightings website. The video itself lasts just less than
30 seconds and shows the object, about 50 feet in diameter, moving in
and around some Mexico City highrise apartment buildings at a height
of about 200 feet under overcast conditions. At the point in the
video where these two scenes were taken, the craft has just been
noted to 'wobble' slightly and then darts behind one of the buildings
never to appear again.

Cloaking exposed? When the tape was first put up on Jim Dilettoso's
three computer monitors, the craft did NOT appear on one of
them...it just wasn't visible. Everything else was. As Brit and Lee
Elders explained to Jeff, when Jim tweaked the gamma setting on the
monitor, the craft suddenly appeared. This, according to the Elders,
opens up a whole new realm of possibilities. It could well be that
these craft commonly use a relatively simple radiation technique to
cloak themselves and appear invisible in broad daylight - especially
in overcast conditions. While this remains thoroughly speculative, it
is nevertheless therefore possible that the people in this craft
thought their cloaking shield was up and operating on that day.
Perhaps when someone began videotaping them they realized through
some sensing ability that they were being taped and were visible!
That might explain why the craft suddenly darted behind the highrise
building and never reappeared. If what we see in these pictures is
indeed real, it would seem foolish not to assume that such cloaking
is an easy technology for these people who have mastered so much
else. It would furthermore seem a logical assumption that there just
might be craft, hundreds...or even thousands of them, flying around
major cities in broad daylight, touring right down major boulevards,
looking into the private lives of countless highrise residents, and
generally making like Claude Rains in the "Invisible Man"! Just a

Brit and Lee Elders also told Jeff that at least 10 witnesses to the
event have now been identified by Jaime and that extensive
investigations into the sightings are underway. Furthermore, the
building from which the video was taken has apparently been
identified and the employees will be asked to participate in the
investigation. It is now known that these pictures came from Mexican
UFO Researcher Fernando Camacho who actually videotaped them from a
television program hosted by Jaime Maussan. Fernando's report:

This report was submitted to UFOINFO by Fernando Camacho: The images
I am attaching were extracted from a video broadcasted the 28th of
September 1997 in "Tercer Milenio" hosted by Jaime Maussan. This
program is on every weekend here in Mexico. Maussan is a
well-respected Mexican Ufologist. On this broadcast he was
noticeably excited about the video. He said that he received it on
Friday the 26th. Then he proceeded to read a letter that came
accompanying the video. After that he showed an amazing piece of
footage. On it you see a huge UFO hovering over a building. He
estimated its size at 20 meters. You can clearly see the UFO is
rotating over its axis. It has a very peculiar motion, as if earth's
gravity is affecting it as it flies. For a few seconds the UFO stays
fairly static, then it begins to move. It travels from left to right
and goes behind a building, reappearing again on top of the same
building. It keeps traveling at a slow pase until it goes behind a
second building and we never see it again. On the audio you can hear
the voices of two guys very excited, shouting and screaming as they
tape the UFO. Maussan analyzed the video by testing various "display
modes" with a computer and by zooming digitally on the image. He
concluded it was highly likely that is was genuine. The following
week on the broadcast of October 5th he continued the investigation.
He went to the site where the video was shot and found several
witnesses that corroborated the event. He was calling it "the Supreme
evidence" of the UFO Phenomena. He said that it was the best video in
existence of a UFO, and that he would continue with the
investigation. I made 4 image grabs of the video. I recorded it on
VHS over-the-air so the grabs are not of the highest quality.

[W 7]******

Source: CNN
From: baylissl@gwent-tertiary.ac.uk
Date: Friday 17th October 1997

Sparkling Celestial Affair Stirs Southern Australia.

SYDNEY, October 14th 1997 (Itar-Tass) - The telephone of the
Australian national bureau for monitoring unidentified flying
objects was attacked throughout last Saturday, with avalanching
reports of an UFO from hundreds of witnesses.

The story of residents of the eastern coast of Australia was that a
bright greenish-silvery object was seen floating in the sky for a
few minutes before to fall apart in sparkles that rained on the

Australian military experts and scientists of the New South Wales
observatory are in hypothesis-making, while news media have come up
with an explanation that the enigmatic sparkling affair was space
junk from the Russian orbiting space station Mir.

[W 8]******

Source: Teletext: World News In Brief
Date: Friday 24th October 1997

New Russian Stealth Fighter

Russia: A new Stealth fighter, described as superior to the US
radar-evading plane, has carried out a series of successful test
flights, reports said.

[W 9]******

Global Surveyor will photograph 'Face On Mars' say NASA

On the 12th September 1997 NASA announced that the Global Surveyor
spacecraft will infact be taking higher resolution photographs of
the Cydonia area (Face On Mars). The spokesman for Planetary SETI
Research, an organisation that has published many papers on this
fascinating subject, Professor Stanley McDaniel said that there is a
"reasonably high probability" that at least some of the objects will
be artificial structures designed by intelligent extraterrestrial

The main fear at the moment is just how much of the Cydonia region
will be photographed. The hope is of course that the entire area
will be covered. The resolution of the photo's will be five times
higher than any previously taken.

[W 10]******

Source: NASA press release
Date: Tuesday 14th October 1997

Global Surveyor's Orbit Raised While Solar Panel is Analysed

[edited for length]

The lowest point of Mars Global Surveyor's aerobraking orbit has been
raised temporarily, and aerobraking has been suspended while the
flight team analyzes data to understand why one of the spacecraft's
two solar panels, which had not fully deployed, exhibited unexpected
motion during a recent dip through the upper Martian atmosphere.

The spacecraft's current 35-hour orbit around Mars, which was taking
it down to 75 miles (121 kilometers) above the Martian surface during
each of its closest passes over the planet, has been raised to 105
miles (170 kilometers).  The orbit was raised Oct. 12 by the
operations team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), Pasadena,
CA, and Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, CO, by performing a
brief, 5.15-mile-per-hour (2.3-meter-per-second) propulsive burn at
the farthest point of the spacecraft's orbit around Mars.  The
panel's performance has had no effect on spacecraft power.

"We're taking a hiatus from aerobraking for the next few weeks while
we study data to try to model and understand the apparent deflection
of the solar panel that never fully deployed and latched in place
after launch," said Glenn E. Cunningham, Mars Global Surveyor project
manager at JPL.  "This delay in the aerobraking process will probably
change the spacecraft's final mapping orbit from the originally
planned 2 p.m. local Mars time passage over the planet's equator to
another time, and we are studying several other orbits that will give
us nearly the same quality of science results."

Several other mapping orbits are available to Mars Global Surveyor to
carry out its science objectives.  The flight team will explore
alternatives in the next few weeks to accomplish the lowest orbit
possible and achieve a "sun-synchronous" orbit that will allow Global
Surveyor to fly over the Martian equator at the same local solar time
each orbit.  These sun-synchronous orbits are designed so that the
spacecraft's instruments always see Mars at the same lighting angle
on every pass over the surface.

Additional information about the Mars Global Surveyor mission is
available on the World Wide Web by accessing JPL's Mars news site at


or the Global Surveyor project home page at URL:


[W 11]******

Still no radio contact with Pathfinder

On Wednesday, October 15, 1997, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in
Pasadena attempted to send a series of commands to the Pathfinder
spacecraft on Mars.

The commands were uploaded via the Deep Space Network's 100-kilowatt
transmitter in Madrid, Spain. The site has two 26-meter steerable
antennae and a steerable dish antenna 64 meters in diameter.

"In both cases, they had not received a 'transmitter on' signal on
the ground, indicating that the commands had been received by the

The last successful contact with Pathfinder took place on October 7.
A JPL spokesman said, "We fear the signal is falling on deaf ears."

[W 12]******

Source: The Times Interface Newspaper
Date: 22nd October 1997

A breath of fresh airline

By Anjana Ahuja

How appropriate that a car should go supersonic on the 50th
anniversary of the sound barrier being broken in the air. On October
14, 1947, Charles (Chuck) E. Yeager, a test pilot with the United
States Air Force, exceeded Mach 1 in a Bell XS-1 rocketplane. Now
Brigadier General, Yeager is still in the business, and acts as
flying adviser at Edwards Air Force Base in California.

As Aviation Week and Space Technology notes this week, people are
already looking towards hypersonic flight, which entails speeds more
than Mach 5. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the Hyper-X
programme, a Nasa experiment in propulsion. Initial tests on the
air-breathing plane will be conducted in a temperature tunnel. The
advantage of air-breathing technology is that it takes oxygen from
the air for its combustion and propulsion system; this means oxygen
does not have to be carried on board. This allows for a bigger
payload, or for the vehicle to extend its range.

After those initial checks, a B-52 will loft the slender, 12ft plane
into the air and release it at about 20,000ft. A booster rocket will
kick in, sending the plane to about 95,000ft, when the engine will
fire for just seven seconds.

In the first test flight, scheduled for mid-1999, the plane is
supposed to reach Mach 7. Subsequent test flights will see the plane
reach Mach 5 and Mach 10. On each occasion, the plane will arc
upwards and then splash down off the coast of California.

And the first test plane will be on a kamikaze mission  there are
no plans to retrieve it from the ocean. Over the next five years the
programme will cost $160 million.

At the same time, Nasa has also been working on high-speed civil
planes. The designs, which look like Concorde, are supposed to be
environmentally friendly and economically viable (which cannot be
said of Concorde) to encourage more widespread use. Boeing has
joined the effort and cancelled its own plans to bring out a
supersonic jumbo jet.

But it will be different from Concorde in several ways. It will not
have a drooping nose, nor a retracting windshield visor. In fact,
the plan for the super sonic transport (SST) incorporates no plans
for front windows, just side ones. The pilot will have to rely on
cameras to see what's ahead. It doesn't worry Nasa  it says that
using conventional vision, pilots can spot onlyone in three
potential hazards.

The plane, designed to reach Mach 2.4 and carry 300 passengers, is
costing billions to design and build. It will cruise at 60,000ft. To
protect against the heat generated by supersonic speeds, the nose
and edges will be made of titanium.

[W 12]******

Source: The Times Interface Newspaper
Date: 22nd Octoner 1997

American navy set to deploy robot planes

By Chris Partridge

PILOTLESS aircraft may be deployed by the US Navy to destroy enemy
fleets and shore installations in future conflicts.

The Naval Air Systems Command has awarded a six-month contract to
Lockheed Martin to define a family of pilotless naval strike

Ideas include an aircraft that takes off horizontally but lands
vertically, enabling it to take off through a forward port on the
ship and come straight down on the upper deck after the mission.
Another is a plane which would be fired vertically from the ship and
come down in the same manner.

The most revolutionary concept is a plane launched from the
ballistic missile tubes of a submarine, subsequently landing at a
friendly air base or ship. The robot planes would be used to attack
targets such as airfields and radar installations and would be guided
by a pilot either on board the carrier or even back in a naval base
in the US.

Pilotless planes are increasingly seen as the way of the future
because they remove the most delicate and precious element (the
human being) from the fighting machine. They will be able to turn at
speeds which would kill a human pilot, and will have no windows  the
weakest point of any fighter.

Once the pilot is removed from the aircraft it can be launched in
ways that would be impossible with a man aboard, such as firing it
vertically with a disposable rocket. Landing can also be much
harder, which means flight decks can be shorter. Although unoccupied
strike aircraft are expected to be used extensively in the wars of
the future, pilots will still be needed in many roles. The US Navy is
currently planning a fleet of large carriers known as CVX, and
stealth designs are among the front runners.

The stealth CVX would have a long tapering bow, sloping down to the
surface like the ram on an ancient Greek trireme, and a flat,
unobstructed flight deck. Ironically, the US Navy is seeking ideas
for a stealth aircraft carrier just as it is trying to persuade
Congress to fund a tenth nuclear aircraft carrier of the Nimitz class
 ships so big they could easily be picked up by radars on Mars.

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