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Declassified Russian UFO Documents (Voice Of

From: Stig_Agermose@online.pol.dk (Stig Agermose)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 03:32:26 +0200
Fwd Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 17:01:26 -0500
Subject: Declassified Russian UFO Documents (Voice Of

The following is a transcript of part of the feature "Science And
Engineering In The Commonwealth", which was subjoined to Voice Of
Russia's news broadcast October 23 at 0900 UTC. You can hear it in Real
Audio at


from the WRN (World Radio Network) Internet Audio Services
(audio@wrn.org). The main site of which is at


Boris Belitsky is Voice Of Russia's science correspondent. The
interviewer was Esther Winters.


Esther Winters: ...But just now we have to turn to another
subject, and we keep getting letters about unidentified flying
objects, yes UFOs. The latest questions on this subject come from
Ban Hong Hue (?) in Burma and from Paul Brown in
(unintelligible), England. So tell us first of all, Boris, when
the first UFOs were spotted over Russia!

Well, we all know that in the United States the first reports of
flying saucers, as they were dubbed on that occasion, came in
1947, and that was when a group of rapidly moving, glistening
objects were observed in the daytime near Mount Rainier,
Washington. Now, what about Russia? Are UFOs a relatively new
phenomenon here?

Boris Belitsky: Oh, no! This is evident from recently
declassified documents of the Russian Ministry of The Interior
which inherited documents of the Russian Imperial Ministry of The
Interior dating back to the beginning of the past century. Now,
among those documents there is a very unusual report to the Tsar
from his Third Department of The Chancellery, as the government's
secret police was known in those days.

W: And what is unusual about this report, Boris?

B: It describes certain extraordinary light effects observed in the sky
by the inhabitants, the police and  military in the city of Orenburg on
the night of December 26, 1830. The observations amount to what today
we would call a typical UFO sighting.

(Orenburg is a large town (519.000 inhabitants) in Bashkiria in the
south-eastern part of European Russia - on the right bank of the Ural
river - and a center of the trade with Central Asia.)

W: But surely this wasn't the only report of
this kind in the archive of the Tsar's secret police, was it, Boris?

B: No, it wasn't. There were others, too. A similar sighting was
reported from the city of Ushtug (?) in Central Russia on January 30,
1844, and still other reports are dated 1846 and 1847. In short UFOs
appear to have been sighted over Russia as far back as the first half
of the past century.

W: Boris, excuse me for interrupting, but this isn't a case of the
Russian trend to be first in yet another area, which was so common in
the recent past?

B (laughing): Oh, no! Russian ufologists readily accept that UFOs were
sighted long, long before that. A Russian history of UFO sightings
refers to sightings in Norway in the ninth century, in Ireland in the
tenth century, and in England in the twelfth century. Not to mention a
large number of later sightings in the fourteenth century, the
fifteenth and the sixteenth.

W: Boris, to return to more recent times. Now, the UFO craze in our
country, as we said, began soon after the Second World War with a
sighting near Mount Rainier in the United States. What was the reaction
of official Moscow, though, to that report?

B: Well, of course you have to remember that the cold war had already
begun, in fact it was well under way, and the Soviet reaction was
therefore quite predictable. A Radio Moscow broadcast at the time
dismissed the American report by declaring: "The American imperialists
have invented some silly nonsense with a view to further their
warmongering aims, intimidating taxpayers and the Congress, so as to
quickly secure approval for an exorbitant military budget".

W (laughing loudly): Tell us! Were there other similar reactions in
other Soviet media?

B: For a number of years there was total silence on the subject. It was
completely taboo. Then in 1961 on January 8th came a salvo from the
Communist party's biggest caliber guns, the newspaper Pravda echoed by
the newspaper Komsomolska Pravda. Pravda printed a definitive article
on the subject under the heading "The Myth Of Flying Saucers". The
article was an interview with the prominent Soviet physicist Lev
Archimovitch. The physicist pooh-poohed the whole idea of UFOs as
optical illusions, and condemned their exploitation by unscrupulous

W: Has he been supported by investigations since then?

B: To a very large extent, yes. The vast majority of so-called UFO
sightings has been identified as either effects caused by space
launchings or unconventional aircraft, or aircraft under uncommon
weather conditions, or aircraft with unusual light patterns, or
meteorological and other high altitude balloons, or flocks of birds, or
reflections of searchlights off clouds, or similar optical illusions.
Some sightings have also been attributed to psychological factors.

W: Psychological factors - now, what do you mean by psychological
factors quite frankly, Boris?

B: Well, it seems that in some cases flying saucers serve to replace
gods whom science has deposed. With their distant and exotic origins
and their pseudo-scientific associations UFOs appear welcome to some
people who reject traditional religious frameworks and yet need some
article of faith.

W: Boris, you said that the vast majority of UFO sightings have been
identified as being due to natural causes. What about the remaining
minority, though?

B: It's true. There is a small minority of sightings that so far defy
such explanation. But that of course is not proof of their
extraterrestrial origin. It's merely an argument in support of further
studies of this at times baffling subject.

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