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Re: Abduction Oct 4 1997

From: wlmss@peg.apc.org [Lawrie Williams]
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:08:27 +1000 (GMT+1000)
Fwd Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:02:27 -0500
Subject: Re:  Abduction Oct 4 1997

> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 00:57:07 -0400
> From: Peregrine Mendoza <101653.2205@compuserve.com> [Peter Brookesmith]
> Subject: Questions for Abductees
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

> The Duke infers nothing of the kind. The Duke observed with a micture
> sorry (but look it up!) mixture of despair and disgust that you
> blithely predicted to a 16-year-old girl that she would be
> impregnated by aliens....


Mistake #1.         I did not say anything like this,
blithely or otherwise. This is clearly wooly thinking.

Or is it that cheap political debating trick, to attribute
something false to someone, then wax sarcastic about something
they never said?

> ...........Because "the person K" has reported something like a
> abduction experience *does not* mean that is what they had. Nobody
> knows (except, it seems, you) what happened to them. Instead of

Mistake number #2.     I told her friend that nobody knew what
was going on. As recorded in my initial file. More false
attribution.

I note that Peter's spam is working well. Just got another
message in my mail box from "Roger" who has framed his views from
the false information propogated by Peter Brooksmith.

> trying to find out what did occur, you make one monstrous assumption

No Peter. Opinion is not Assumption. There's mistake #3 for you.

> and then tell this kid that she can expect to be rogered and made
> pregnant by an alien. Terrific.

Now you employ cheap sexual innuendo against a child.

You have three times misrepresented the information I introduced
to the discussion. There was not a lot of it but you have
nevertheless managed to make a complete cock-up of it. This is
either sloppiness or obfuscation. Three strikes and you were out,
my friend, even before you lurched into inflammatory smut.

> Why am I so bloody annoyed?

That is easy to answer. Your style betrays the presence of a
pubescent mind in a post-adolescent body. In other words wooly
thinking - quite likely a genetic trait in need of careful
control. And self-evidently it is because you address issues far
too complex for your intellect to grasp adequately. Rather than
accept not being up to it, you get stroppy. I suggest you don a
pair of gumboots and go for a good long walk to clear your mind.

Peter, I can handle your grief. I prefer that to seeing you
attacking abductee womenfolk, people who are trying to rear
children in a stable environment. And you presume to get moral
with me, old fruit.

You seek to make a name for yourself by writing about fact while
trying to convince the world it is fiction. William Tenn would
have been proud of you, it surely puts you in a klass of your
own.

It is the poison and spite that skeptics put abroad that
generates the real angst and trauma for countless abductees, 16
year old girls included. It gives many of the proles an excuse to
taunt and intimidate them, to call them liars and accuse them of
mental illness. It puts us under immense social pressure. It can
even lead to suicides in people who cannot endure the conflict
between what is happening to them and the denial and pressure
from those around them. So they kill themselves, especially
vulnerable young kids.

That is the kind of harm I have to deal with, and it stands head
and shoulders above the petty and false accusations you sling at
me.

You and your kind fuel the denial. You judge me quite falsely for
the very real harm and hurt that YOU do to thousands, nay, tens
of thousands of individuals via the power of the print and tv
media. And you do it to line your pockets, for blood money for
propoganda that drives kids to their graves.

Those pseudo-sophisticated fantasy games of yours are a poor mask
for the very real evil you do. Its a great earner no doubt,
editors will buy debunker-spiel. But when you try the same stunts
on real abductees you are out of your league. No wonder you then
have to resort to fairy stories:

> Gather round children let me tell you a tale:
> Sir Cedric, a handsome but somewhat self-absorbed youth,

[ 72 lines of totally wasted bandwidth followed as a singularly
  negative contribution to ufology from Peter Brooskmith ]

> The only connexion between you and Sir Cedric in this parable is
> your prattishness and your incapacity to judge a situation from
> anything but your own point of view. Do you get the point?

That you misread files, get emotional when they confuse you, and
then resort to ad hominim. Yes, I would say I get that point.

>            ....... When a mob of such generally opposed persons
> jump on you with both feet, does it not cross your mind - never a
> long journey, it would seem - that you might be just a teensy, eensy,
> weeny bit mistaken? Apparently not.

Skye merely clipped my ear. John Velez started hollering but he
is inclined to that kind of thing. The other 2 were just anxious
daddies realizing at last that their little ones could be next
and lashing out at the messenger. I was flattered, not flattened.
Hardly a mob!  How about "A Small Gang"?  Say, half a per cent of
everyone who saw the original message? If that.

I think *your* involvement was spurious and intended to waste
list time. Far be it for me to say you are unable to relate to
the feelings of others. I expect you to become much more
emotionally involved when I move you on to the very promising
Gnostic debate you have just started....

For I have evidence that the mute phenomenon is related to the
Artemis tradition and I have some testable theories. With Artemis
the Huntress at large you will need to take extra care of your
special sheep these coming winter nights. Hang onto those
gumboots, keep looking forward and maintain a firm grip on all
that wooliness. I hope this helps.

> Yours &c
> Palfreyman D. Mountingblock
> Stable Hand

Lawrie Williams_________________


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