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Re: Questions for Abductees

From: Peregrine Mendoza <101653.2205@compuserve.com> [Peter Brookesmith]
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 00:56:51 -0400
Fwd Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 02:23:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Questions for Abductees

The Duke of Mendoza presents his compliments.

>From: "WHITE" <mjawhite@digitaldune.net> [John White]
>To: "UFO UpDates - Toronto" <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Questions for Abductees
>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 07:38:24 -0700

>I took the phrase "the folklore that calls itself 'abduction
>research'" to designate a body of written materials that a group
>of people consider as scripture in their belief and conduct
>involving alien abduction.

That was certainly part of what I meant (as the longer-winded
exegesis makes clear, I hope).

>The responding post triggered that interesting parallel for me.

(John is referring to the Gnostic vs Christian Fathers debates in
the Church of the 1st-3rd century CE, which ended in pain and
sadness for the former)

>So, I read several excerpts from The Foreigner, a gnostic text,
>and sure 'nuff, the Foreigner speaks of technique in
>comprehending reality, which didn't set right for the
>competition, so they made it heresy.

Errol, please take warning, if this develops into any substantial
discussion, it calls for a whole new thread.

John: your parallel is right up to a point, but IMO ufology is a
lateral inversion of the Fathers vs Gnostics battles. By which I
mean the ETH-centered ufological mythos is Gnostic (or Manichean)
at heart, and it is that which is crying "heresy", not the
skeptics - who after all have no would-be orthodoxy to defend or

The black-or-white choice to which Gnosticism limits itself is also
paralleled by one of several unstated assumptions within ufology:
"The debate must go on". The cosmic battle is reflected in the
incurable yea-and-nay saying over specific cases. No consensus is
achievable when the system of thought is (probably unconsciously)
predicated on such foundations. Witness recent posts on Gulf Breeze.

ETH-centered ufology is Gnostic religion cast in techno-scientific
terms. Gnosticism is intrinsic, too, to the American religious
consciousness - which is where ufology translated and transmuted
it from. For a longer discussion that makes sense of these Olympian-
sounding statements, slip over to


and look for articles under my (other) name. Failing that (tee hee)
read anything on religion by Harold Bloom that you can lay your hands
on, but especially his ""The American Religion".

>(Great Post!)

Gosh, thanks! Whyn't you say that louder to that nice Mr Williams
over there. He's the one watching the UFOs shoot down Harrier AV-8Bs
and GR-7s.

Yours &c
Predella D. Mandora
Jobbing Builder

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