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Re: Zeta Notso Ridiculouso

From: Sean Jones <tedric@tedric.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 20:14:32 +0100
Fwd Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:35:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Zeta Notso Ridiculouso

>Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:15:57 +0100
>From: Mike Smith <mickey@anix.co.uk>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Zeta Notso Ridiculous

>Hi All,

>This is a response to many of the posts on this thread. The main
>thread seems to have been lost. The point was, is it possible for
>someone over there to get over here, when 'there' is a very long
>way away.

>The answer is yes. We as society are already technologically
>cabable of building interstellar craft. And in fact have already
>done so, both of the voyager probes and the one that came before
>them(can't remember the name) (??? Pioneer ???)are going
>interstellar within our lifetimes. We can build much faster
>propulsion systems than are already in use. Only logistics and
>the chance to experiment have prevented us from doing so

>Even if another society was only 100 years ahead of us they would
>be perfectly capable of getting from 'there' to 'here'. It's also
>a perfectly natural thing to want to do. We want to do it.
>Missions will be organised as soon as they are logistically

>As to speed, well yes at present such missions would be slow.
>Project Daedalus, which was once a front runner, had projected
>speeds of up to 25% SPEOL, Stellar Ram Jets could possibly travel
>faster still. All without resorting to Warp Engines. Okay so you
>probably would not want to send people at first, but where
>machines lead people shortly follow.

>The speed of light in a vacuum is seen to be a universal speed
>limit. There are certain quantum events to which this limitation
>does not apply.The Quantum Tunneling effect is one of these. This
>is okay, its accepted. Nothing gets violated unless information
>can be transmitted from one point to another. As I understand it,
>Mozart (thats his music not the composer) has already been
>transmitted at 3.7 c i.e. 3.7 times faster than the supposed
>speed limit. This may however be down to experimental errors and
>work is going on at present to show that information can be
>coherently transmited at faster than c.

>If this continues to be the case, we may well have to ask a lot
>of new questions that science, at present, is ill equipped to
>answer. You should never rest on your proverbial scientific
>laurels as you can never tell when someone will come along and
>pull them from under you.

>So there we go, sermon over. It's possible we can do it so why
>can't they. Don't get me wrong I'm still a sceptic, but I won't
>dismiss an idea out of hand just because I'm Sceptical.

>Regards to the List,


Hi Mike, Hi Errol, Hi Stan, Hi All <phew>

When Stan joined us on irc (#ufo, on the ultranet) I asked him...

<Sean_J> Hi and Welcome to #ufo Stanton, what I would like to ask is, On
Errols Global Updates we have been recently talking about traveling to
other stars how many years away do you think this is for us earth
people?                                 -->(Re-Zeta not so Ridiculous)

<Stanton> "Depends on vision will and money. Like going to the moon on
the day 40 years ago today when Sputnick went up. Many thought then it
would never happen.

Probably the emphasis is on MONEY. The root of all evils etc etc, but
cost is probably the most mitigating factor. "We" may well have the
technology to visit other stars in our childrens lifetimes but the cost
with present technology is exorbitant.

As to the speed of light being the speed limit of the universe, "we" now
have _proof_ that this is simply no longer so. The proof is in the form
of Tachyons. Tahcyons have a minimum speed limit of c, so in my humble
opinion ftl drives are possible."

        Are you a man or a mouse, come on squeek up!
                       Sean Jones
          reply to--sean@tedric.demon.co.uk
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