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Re: Solved Abduction cases?

From: Don Ledger <dledger@istar.ca>
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:12:39 +0100
Fwd Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:54:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Solved Abduction cases?

> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:29:51 -0500 (CDT)
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> From: Dennis <dstacy@texas.net> [Dennis Stacy]
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Solved Abduction cases?

> >From: clark@canby.mn.frontiercomm.net [Jerome Clark]
> >Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:01:19 PDT
> >To: updates@globalserve.net
> >Subject: RE: UFO UpDate: Re: Solved Abduction cases?

 Apologetic snip.....

> It's the application of agnosticism that troubles me. Is there
> really anyone out there who seriously thinks the medical
> profession wouldn't be intrigued by obvious cases of missing
> fetuses? And that cases of same would routinely surface _without
> regard to the UFO abduction literature at all_? Sonograms are as
> routine nowadays as tongue depressors. If nothing else, a missing
> fetus from one sonogram to another would prompt those involved to
> contact social or law enforcement officials if not other medical
> personnel at the very least.

Hi Dennis, Jerry and List,

I am sticking my head above the skyline to make a small point.
What if the female has not had the 'sonogram" or as we call them
up here "ultrasounds". I've had three daughters who have produced
6 grand children over the last six years and they tell me that
these tests aren't normally required until 18 weeks into the
term.  I have a recollection, perhaps wrong, that in those cases
where women have claimed to have had their fetus taken it was at
about the third month of pregnancy, or 12 weeks. Perhaps some of
those women on the list that have been through this "sonogram' in
the U.S. or other countries, could elaborate. Also is my 3 month
fetus extraction accurate.

> Even alleged female abductees making
> this claim should have unambiguous medical documentation of their
> status. Yet we routinely accept such stories -- "Oh, those
> aliens! You haven't seen the half of it, doc." Or maybe the
> doctor lost her records or moved away and couldn't be located by
> the dedicated investigator intent on gathering evidence that
> would document alien intervention. Or maybe ET stole 'em. But be
> agnostic about such cases -- hey, it coulda happened -- and
> pretty soon you can be agnostic about anything, including claims
> made by leading UFO lights that something like 4 million
> Americans alone have been abducted. That's a LOT of potential
> missing fetuses (and/or implants) in my book. (And even a very
> small percentage would still be a very large lot.) Could we see
> some documentation for just one?
> Dennis

If you are going to go that route Dennis you had better start
doing up some kind of questionnaire for affected females, and it
is going to have to be all emcompassing. This is not going to be
solved by one or two cases, it would require thousands to do a
definitive study. I don't have time right now but if this thread
continues I'll give you an idea what I am getting at based on
some recent work done in our area by a university student of
psychology doing his thesis.

Don Ledger

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