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Re: Witness Anonymity

From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 02:13:04 -0500
Fwd Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:10:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Witness Anonymity

>Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:39:30 -0400
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Don Allen <dona@totcon.com>
>Subject: Witness Anonymity - open challenge

>At 10:13 AM 10/11/97 -0400, John Velez wrote:

>>Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 04:27:08 -0500
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Witness Anonymity

>>>From: "C Hathaway & J. Presson" <earthwrk@doitnow.com>
>>>To: "UFO UpDates - Toronto" <updates@globalserve.net>
>>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Witness Anonymity
>>>Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:04:01 -0700

>>>We are lucky to see how dysfunctional Hopkins support groups are I
>>>guess. As denial seems to be the BIG red flag of both you and

>>Jeez, we are feeling judgemental (again) today aren't we? Get up
>>on the wrong side of the web again? <VBG>

>I have watched time and time again when someone would ask Linda
>NAPOLITANO (for that IS her real name and not the bogus "Cortile"
>alias, let's get real folks)


I have NEVER in any of my posts (check the archives) defended
Linda's 'case.' I have defended -Linda- as a person, there is a
difference. And for Christs sake if you have something to tell
Hopkins then contact him and tell it to Budd, he wrote the book!
I don't have to explain or prove anything to anybody!

Budd Hopkins
Intruders Foundation
PO Box 30233
New York, NY, 10011

If you want to investigate _me_ that's different, let's talk. But
Linda's case is Linda's case, and any explaining or proving
should be directed to her and to Budd. Not that he needs it from
me but, I am not Budd's mouthpiece, appendage, or any other such
nonsense. Even when I worked with him I have always spoken my
mind and never involved myself in defending (any) of his many
cases. What makes you think I'll suddenly be interested in a
change of heart?

I can only speak for my own set of circumstances Don. BTW, I am
also not a part of -any- "group." That goes for abductee,
political or, theater group, so you and anyone else who enjoys
labeling people and lumping them together without knowing the
person(s) could leave me out of it. Thank you very much.

Got a beef with Hopkins? take it up with him!

Got a beef with Linda? Take it up with her!

Got a beef with me? Then direct it to me and make it specific to
me. I cannot/will not speak for -anyone- elses "case". I can only
address details pertaining to my own. Re-read this if you still
have any questions (or in this case, challenges) for me about
Linda's (or any other abductees) case.

BTW, you should go to the archive and read Greg Sandows posts
regarding the "Mahdi" (Not sure if it's Butler or Hansen who -now
heads- a mystical UFO/alien cult based somewhere out west and has
titled himself the "Grand Mahdi!") and Stefula. It's eye opening
stuff. Greg took the time to look into that stuff in great detail
and wrote several excellent posts about them. Check it out, but
that's only if you're interested in other points of view. Sounds
to me like you've thrown out the baby with the bath water and
made up your mind that it's all bull--it because that's all it
could possibly be. Not very objective Don. Any personal or
intellectual limitations you may have are not my problem or my
responsibility. You already know which mail -slot you can use- to
insert your "challenge" to Budd and to Linda's case right? <G>
(mailing address above)

Anything _I_ can answer or do for you in relation to my own case
and abduction reports Don? If not, leave me out of your
Hopkins/Linda contest, not my business, and not interested.

John Velez, There's a sucker born every minute and the honor
befell the poor guy born right before me,...I am nobodys fool.

                              John Velez

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