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Re: Witness Anonymity

From: clark@canby.mn.frontiercomm.net [Jerome Clark]
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:01:34 PDT
Fwd Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:20:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Witness Anonymity

> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:39:30 -0400
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> From: Don Allen <dona@totcon.com>
> Subject: Witness Anonymity - open challenge

> At 10:13 AM 10/11/97 -0400, John Velez wrote:

> >Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 04:27:08 -0500
> >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> >From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
> >Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Witness Anonymity

> >>From: "C Hathaway & J. Presson" <earthwrk@doitnow.com>
> >>To: "UFO UpDates - Toronto" <updates@globalserve.net>
> >>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Witness Anonymity
> >>Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:04:01 -0700

> >>We are lucky to see how dysfunctional Hopkins support groups are I
> >>guess. As denial seems to be the BIG red flag of both you and
> >>Linda.

> >Jeez, we are feeling judgemental (again) today aren't we? Get up
> >on the wrong side of the web again? <VBG>

> I have watched time and time again when someone would ask Linda
> NAPOLITANO (for that IS her real name and not the bogus "Cortile"
> alias, let's get real folks) a question or challenge her on an issue
> that she would get extremely rude. I have expressed my frank
> appraisal of her case and she has called me a "debunker". Yes,
> I DO happen to have this nasty habit of challenging bunk in
> UFOlogy where it's warranted. It doesn't make me any friends
> but then, I'm not in UFOlogy to make friends or kiss anyone's
> ass. I'm here to get to the raw truth. I despise frauds, con men
> and people who set themselves up as "authority figures"
> as Budd Hopklins has done, and who isn't even a licensed
> mental health professional. Just because Linda claims the
> bizarre events as truth in her case and that her story is
> supported by Budd Hopkins, Jerry Clark, Walt Andrus and
> her buds _doesn't_ necessarily make it an established factoid
>  in UFOlogy. It might to you and a very few select others,
> but not to everyone else.

I'd say you're pretty good at fabricating bunk yourself.  I do
not "support" Linda Cortile's story.  I challenge you to find anything
I have written about this case that could fairly be characterized as
support.  The evidence for ANY conclusion, pro or con, is simply
not sufficient, as I have stated repeatedly; therefore, it's useless for
any larger evidentiary or rhetorical purpose. At this stage, and maybe
forever, the Linda case is no more than a curiosity, like many other
unproven reports over the course of UFO history, and nothing to
lose sleep over -- unless your life is spectacularly devoid of anything
more meaningful.

Let me repeat: I suspend judgment.  Thus, I am skeptical in
the classic sense.  In the meantime, I do not have the compulsion,
as apparently you do, to demonize Linda Cortile.  I always marvel at
those who decree certainty when such manifestly does not exist --
making debunkers like you as misguided as the truest of believers,
and effectively the same.  For those who can stand to face the
profound uncertainties and ambiguities that characterize this case
in humble reality (in other words, as opposed to the case as
reinvented in the simplistic, and overbearingly self-
righteous [see above], nostrums of the debunkers),
read Greg Sandow's marvelously balanced treatment
in the Spring and Summer 1996 issues of IUR.

Meantime, Don, you might lighten up. I think you'd live a
lot longer.  Linda Cortile, after all, is not the focus of all
evil in the universe, or even its ufological equivalent.

Cheers,
Jerry Clark



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