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Re: New and Wondering

From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:27:29 -0400
Fwd Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:27:29 -0400
Subject: Re: New and Wondering




This one, for some reason, got away from me last night and ended
up being sent to the List, un-proofed and incomplete. Caused some
understandable consternation.....

(sigh!)

>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: stenger@spindle.net (stenger@spindle.net) [Sharolyn Stenger]
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: New and Wondering
>Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:01:23 -0500

>>From: ujack@pop3.scrapcity.cnchost.com [Mark Medford]
>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:05:39 +0000
>>Subject: New and Wondering

>>Dear Friends,

>>I'm new to this list and wondering about all of the negative posts.
>>Would someone be willing to give me a nutshell version of what the
>>raging battle is about? It seems, to my newbie eyes,  primarily
>>focused on a conflict of personalities. I'm sure the current fuss has
>>it's root in some specific question. Just curious....

>>Thanks,
>>Mark

>Dear Mark and Friends,

>Amen!  I have so often wondered the same thing.  One would think
>that a subscription list with the name, 'UFO Updates', would be
>exactly that - updated news of UFO sightings, activity, etc.

No. You might expect a list with the name 'UFO _News_ UpDates' to
be such. 'UpDates' allows for re-hashing, possible trashing,
peer-bashing and above all (as is quite apparent) forthright,
informed 'discussion' - all without bothersome, uninformed
'civilians' of the news.group type. With a soupcon of personality
manifestation.

>And, to be fair, there IS some good information shared.  But you
>have to wade through a tremendous amount of spleen-venting to
>find it.

What UpDates does do is to allow those of us who are: informed,
un-informed, fence-sitters, eager to learn, sharers, or quibblers
a forum to either voice or merely read without too much 'noise'.

While there are those who take offence at the 'noise' that
sometimes rises to an annoying level, others will observe the
'loudspeakers' and either have their suspicions confirmed change
their minds about those individuals or simply grin and trash.

Lets continue with some further observations.....

There's a certain degree of difficulty in moderating a forum such
as this List. 99% of posts to this address actually make it to
your mailbox, almost all of it intact. Yes, some editing _is_
done - on occasion 'nasties' are removed. Less frequently, one is
missed and there ensues the reason for removing those 'nasties'.
I'm sure you're aware of what I'm referring to.

The past couple of weeks have been a tad difficult. There was
major indignation over my terminating the 'Witness Annonimity'
thread. Several subscribers felt that by cutting it when I did I
had impeded some up-coming 'revelations'. My concern at the time
was that by not invoking foreclosure, several subscribers would
end up embarrassing themselves in the heat of debate. Seems I
should have stuck to my initial decision..... and where, by the
way, _are_ those 'revelations'?

My insistence that in order to participate in discussions here
those with access to the Net should subscribe to the List brought
forth more indignation. The rule from the outset here has been
just that - you don't subscribe, your stuff doesn't get posted.
Not because I'm being a hard-nosed bastard but to keep this List
on a relatively even keel. The amount of crap that comes in this
direction has to be seen to be believed. Plus, just because
someone _has_ subscribed doesn't guarantee access to your
mailbox. More filtering of "I believes", 'phenomenal theories',
breathless observations, Channelers, blatant commercialism.....
Everyone has a trash can and having to read everything is not
a subscription-prerequisite. I'm told that 'filter' settings are
an inordinately useful piece of coding.

Threads, such as the ACC posts have become tedious and clouded in
stupidity. Because I returned some of them - see 'Posting Rules'
this List was branded as being part of the 'conspiracy', in
league with 'big-business', etc., etc. Shades of Ed K. and
Boylan! Perhaps, when 'ACC' becomes less clouded by 'facts'.....

It's interesting that the 'Gulf Breeze Paper' discussion seems to
have fizzled - surely the threats of litigation have not cowed
the List? Barbara, Bruce?

Thanksgiving comes early in Canada, Sue and I are off to do
'nasties' to some turkey we don't know.

To Canadian readers we hope that your harvest has been good
this year, to our 'cousins' to the south, you'll get yours
in a couple of weeks, to those across the 'pond' Harvest Home
is an expression I've not used for almost thirty-years, but
gobble-gobble to you too..... ["Martha! - lessee what pudding
gets the wrong end of _this_ schtick!"]

ebk

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