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Re: Phoenix Sightings Update

From: fergus@ukraine.corp.mot.com
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:23:19 -0500 (CDT)
Fwd Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 22:41:49 -0400
Subject: Re: Phoenix Sightings Update

> From: William.Hamilton@pcsmail.pcshs.com
> Date: Tuesday, 30 September 1997 10:02am MT
> To: updates@globalserve.net
> Subject: Phoenix Sightings Update


> I have two items of interest to those who have followed
> the story on the Phoenix sightings of March 13.

> 1)  I have finally received the statement published in
> Tucson Weekly on those A-10s from Maryland.

> "Lt. Keith Shepherd, public information officer at Davis-
> Monthan Air Force Base, confirms that an eight-plane squadron
> of A-10 fighter-bombers from the 175th Fighter Wing,
> based in Baltimore, Maryland, landed at Davis-Monthan
> Air Force Base at approximately 8:30 p.m. on March 13,
> returning from the Phoenix area.  The Baltimore unit
> was in Arizona to conduct training exercises."
> and "Shepherd says an initial check at Davis-Monthan
> revealed that all of the planes permanently stationed
> at the Air Force base had landed before 6 p.m. on
> March 13.  It was a recent report from a Marana Air
> National Guard unit that inspired a deeper look at
> the records." (Tucson Weekly Vol. 14 No. 21 July 24-30, 1997)

> When this was published in the Arizona Republic, some
> facts got changed including the time of landing.  This caused
> some skeptics to proclaim that the videos of the Phoenix
> Lights taken close to 10 p.m. that night were the
> flare drops from these A-10s that had landed an hour-and-a-half
> earlier!  These flare drops, accomplished before 8:30 p.m.
> on that night, do not account for the horizontally moving
> formation of lights seen over Phoenix at around 8:30 p.m.
> We are back to "unidentifieds".

Sorry, Bill, I don't see that this resolves the issue.  The
information published in the Arizona Republic, apparently obtained
by their reporter Randy Reid independently from that in the Tucson
Weekly, refers to an actual flight schedule, stating:

"A flight schedule from Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, shows that
a squadron of planes from Operation Snowbird left at 8:15 p.m. on
March 13 and returned at 10:30 p.m."

"A spokesman for Luke Air Force Base confirmed that the Maryland
planes were authorized to use the Barry Goldwater range from 9:30
to 10 p.m. on March 13."

Since it does not seem likely that planes authorized to use the
test range from 9:30 to 10:00 would have landed at 8:30, both these
statements are in contradiction to the "approximately 8:30" given
by the Tuscon Weekly reporters (Jim Nintzel and Julian Grajewski).

I would also note that, unlike several other statements by Lt.
Shepherd in the article, the 8:30 figure is not a direct quote,
so reporters not familiar enough with the case to be aware of the
time issue could simply have misinterpreted something he said,
such as "the planes did not return until sometime after 8:15".

I think we cannot make any conclusions until we get the results
of your FOIA request to Davis-Monthan.  It might also be prudent
to file an additional request to Luke AFB about exactly when the
Maryland planes were authorized to use the "Barry Goldwater" test
range at Gila Bend, so as to confirm or disconfirm the 9:30 to
10:00 times.

-George Fergus

full text of Arizona Republic article at:

full text of the Tucson Weekly article at:
(At least, that's where it was when I downloaded it, but either
they've moved it or it's not on-line any more.)

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