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Re: Christianity Online The Truth is Out There

From: Jim Deardorff <deardorj@ucs.orst.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:48:42 -0700 (PDT)
Fwd Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 17:19:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Christianity Online The Truth is Out There

> From: Penrose Christopher <penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp>
> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 97 18:37:31 +0900
> To: updates@globalserve.net
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Christianity Online The Truth is Out There

> [...]
> Christians, like everyone else but no more so, deserve a voice on this
> list.  However, I think that the purpose of this list is not
> specifically intended to be a forum to discuss the rationality of the
> belief in Christianity.  To discuss the existence of God or Satan,
> whether GOD = SATAN etc., these discussions are perhaps better
> discussed in more appropriate forums.  However, we can acknowledge the
> possibility that "demonic" possession is a reality.  Particularly if a
> more concrete definition of what "demonic possession" implies is
> presented by Christian proselytizers.  [...]

> Until someone can provide a more
> concrete example of what a "demon" is, and provide some concrete
> evidence beyond the pathetic "evidence of faith" that they exist, then
> we can simply acknowledge that some Christians label evidence of alien
> presence on Earth as a "demonic" presence out of either some need to
> deny the reality of this alien presence, or out of a xenophobic fear
> of it.  [...]

Actually, those who have had the curiosity to investigate "demons" do end
up with a pretty good idea of what a "demon" is.  Results of definitive
investigations have been reported by William J. Baldwin, "Research
proposal on spirit releasement therapy," in Proc. 1st Int. Conf. on
Paranormal Research, Colorado State University, June 1-4, 1989, plus in a
later book he wrote about it.  Or see Edith Fiore's book _The Unquiet
Dead_ (1987), pp. 8-12.  Such research finds that a "demon" is just the
spirit or soul of a departed person that through confusion or ignorance
hasn't yet "gone to the light," but instead has been somehow attracted to
attach itself to another spirit (or sometimes to several other spirits) of
a living person, to the detriment of the latter's mental & psychic health.
So the cure is effected by getting the patient into a hypnotic trance,
talking the spirit into going to the light, and then checking later to see
if it actually did.  In biblical days they didn't know any better than to
call them "demons," which now seems appropriate only if you equate
ignorance (as of an ignorant spirit) with evil, for which a case can be
made.  The man we know as Jesus could apparently "drive" out demons
without first placing the subject in a trance, though causing all those
pigs to drown in that one instance wasn't very nice!

One place where this intersects with ufology is when hypnotic regression
of a potential UFO experiencer reveals that he/she had been contacted by
aliens in a past life, or in some cases apparently *was* then an alien.  I
think Leo Sprinkle & June Parnell have the largest repository of such
cases on record, though John Mack came across it often in _Abduction_,
pp. 32, 209, 259...  The subject also relates to those abductees whose
abductions occurred in an out-of-body state.  But as I mentioned earlier,
this subject is taboo for serious consideration by most of those who are
closely attached to the major Western religions, as well as by those who
feel that existence of the spirit is hogwash.

Jim Deardorff

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