From: Gary <galevy@pipeline.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 04:44:14 -0500
Fwd Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 17:27:07 -0500
Subject: Re: UFOs and CounterIntelligence

> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 14:28:45 -0500
> From: "Steven J. Powell" <sjpowell@access.digex.net>
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: UFOs and CounterIntelligence

> > From: Gary <galevy@pipeline.com>
> > Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: UFOs and CounterIntelligence

> > > There probably are other examples, I'd be surprised if there
> > > weren't. Science politics is a heated competition of ideas.

> > Menzelian science is my polite way of saying psychological warfare,
> > disinformation, prevarication elementary tools of counterintelligence
> > not generally the methods of science politics.

> I think you're too quick to assume counterintelligence.  Just because
> someone doesn't believe that UFOs are alien spacecraft is no reason to
> assume they are counterintelligence agents...<grin>

I can't send you to school on this but if your life or professional
experience has not made you aware of the important role of
counterintellignece in the history of science, industry, politics and
nations, etc. then you are living a fortunate, innocent life.  Pearl
Harbor taught this nation a lesson it determined not to forget and
during WWII and shortly thereafter some of the best minds of this
country we brought to create intelligence organizations which would
prevent that from happening again.  The unanticipated arrival on this
planet of extraterrestrial intelligence(s) is certainly within their
charter.  Its certainly not been treated as a laughing matter and has
been dealt with seriously and covertly.  Read the Brookings Report
through and through not just some snippet quotes.

>
> > Location, location, location they say is the one of the most important
> > factors in real estate.
> > Communications, communications, communications is similarly important
> > in intelligence operations if there is or will be contact with
> > extraterrestrials where might you place your key people?
>
> I've read the posted Drake material and it proves nothing.

No one can prove anything to you, you have to figure it out for
yourself.
Imagine that you had to develop a contingency plan for an event such as
the contact with or arrival on this planet of a non-human intelligence.
This is not an untenable exercise since we as humans plan to visit
elsewheres as soon as we are capable of doing so.  What would you have
to do?

> Remember these were largely military or military-related people solving
> a _military-related_ problem.
>
> That response obviously had some silly aspects.  For instance, assuming
> that if certain respected people explained away all UFO sightings then
> UFO sightings will magically stop occurring...<grin>

I think you under-estimate the military and the intellectual
capabilities of its people.

> So, with all this coverage why don't we have a stepped-up disinformation
> campaign?

I think it is still there, instead of Menzel who was capable of loosing
his temper on televsion we have more subtle people serving as
disinformationalists.  As the times change so has the modus operandi.

> I think the answer is found in the original problem.  The flaw in the
> Robertson/Durant panel conclusion was in allowing the military to make
> public policy.  They never have been capable of it and probably never
> will be.  The military makes military policy, and they're generally
> pretty good at that, but that's all.  The silly aspect, that UFO
> sightings would disappear if previous UFO sightings were explained away,
> is exactly the type of common sense non-military idea that military
> people solving a military problem are incapable of figuring out.

I think you are wrong, these policies were made by the intelligence
community and this is not truly synonymous with the military (Army, Air
Force, Marines and Navy).

The intelligence community involves and considers many other aspects of
public policy which are non-military, e.g. social, political, economic
and even religious.

< snipped >


Gary Alevy